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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker 6 Oct 2017

    The dangers of identity epistemology and identity morality by @thomaschatwillhttps://nyti.ms/2yLJUzL 

    9:40 PM - 6 Oct 2017
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      2. TakingHayekSeriously‏ @FriedrichHayek 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @YeyoZa

        Kant, Hegel, Marx trained professors to reject spontaneous order theory as non-scientific/immoral, in favor of power & conspiracy theories.

        2 replies 1 retweet 12 likes
      3. TakingHayekSeriously‏ @FriedrichHayek 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @FriedrichHayek

        Post-Kantians demanded empirically certified formal structures, which spontaneous order phenomena explained by Darwin & Smith fail to meet.

        1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
      4. TakingHayekSeriously‏ @FriedrichHayek 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @FriedrichHayek

        When you epistemology demands the rejection of spontaneous order theory you are left with primitive power genealogies & conspiracy theories.

        1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
      5. icsomethings‏ @icsomethings 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @FriedrichHayek

        I find it interesting that often the people who discount the agency of individuals in favor of circumstance to explain their lot, are the same ones who ascribe agency to the system and reject circumstance to explain the effects of the system on individuals.

        2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
      6. TakingHayekSeriously‏ @FriedrichHayek 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @icsomethings

        good point — humans are agency-seeking, and we will find agency somewhere.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      7. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. Lucas Lynch‏ @lucasjlynch 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        "People who think with their epidermis or their genitalia or their clan are the problem to begin with..." 1/

        1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
      3. Lucas Lynch‏ @lucasjlynch 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @lucasjlynch @sapinker

        "One does not banish this specter by invoking it." - Christopher Hitchens -

        0 replies 0 retweets 26 likes
      4. End of conversation
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      2. Jonathan Gourlay's Monster, Actually‏ @JGourlay 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        Seems like describing a power structure (“whiteness”) and it’s implications is not the same thing as reinforcing that power structure.

        5 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
      3. Yusef Gaiter‏ @YusefGaiter 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @JGourlay @sapinker

        And, someone gets it. Logic is undefeated.

        0 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      4. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. Christopher Reid‏ @a_dark_knight 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @CHSommers

        I used to be a happy white male. But then I learned that my race is evil. So now I whip myself daily as punishment. Is this bad or normal?

        1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
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      2. Rob‏ @nekko377 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        Maybe it's not just slavery, maybe it's the fact that until one generation ago, blacks were unable to achieve in this country???

        5 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Rob‏ @nekko377 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @nekko377 @sapinker

        The truth is it takes generations to escape that kind of oppression.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Kemal Yonick‏ @kmyonick 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @nekko377

        Dwelling on the oppression is not going to make the escape faster though. Best way to overcome racism is to stop focusing on race.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Rob‏ @nekko377 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @kmyonick

        That implies that the problem is gone and it's effects are erased, which is false. That's called ignorance.

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      6. Caden Lawson‏ @ftw_caden 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @nekko377 @kmyonick

        Can’t think of another time or place where minorities are treated better

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      7. End of conversation
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      2. Bruce Lambert‏ @bruce_lambert 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        That is a provocative essay. The central point seems to be that a focus on race promotes more racial/racist thinking.

        2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
      3. AnneG‏ @AnneOtherLawyer 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @bruce_lambert @sapinker

        It's nice to feel that not focusing on race is a choice. In my experience not many POC feel that they have that luxury.

        7 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      4. robert‏ @rmgolden1995 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @AnneOtherLawyer @bruce_lambert @sapinker

        You can fight racism without buying in to the idea that race is what caused racism. In fact you can't fight racism if you believe otherwise.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Bruce Lambert‏ @bruce_lambert 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @rmgolden1995 @sapinker

        I wasn’t agreeing or disagreeing. I was trying to distill what I took as the main point. Not enough space to elaborate my own position.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. robert‏ @rmgolden1995 7 Oct 2017
        Replying to @bruce_lambert @sapinker

        I was responding to Anne G. I have no problem with what you said or what she said for that matter. Both seem true.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      7. End of conversation

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