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Cognitive scientist at Harvard.

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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker Aug 13

    The always-amazing "Slate Star Codex" (Scott Alexander) on sex differences.https://goo.gl/6N9PaE 

    6:04 PM - 13 Aug 2017
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    1. N.G.McClernan‏ @ngmcclernan Aug 15
      Replying to @sapinker

      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/07/silicon-valley-weapon-choice-women-google-manifesto-gender-difference-eugenics …

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      2. Robert Bate‏ @RobertSBate Aug 14
        Replying to @sapinker

        Narrative is now about a poor beleaguered googler and not if women are systematically excluded from tech jobs. The revenge of the nerds?

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      3. TekTonic‏ @_TekTonic_ Aug 14
        Replying to @RobertSBate @sapinker

        Others view the situation quite differently. To many, it's about assessing reality accurately. You can't be fair if you can't be realistic.

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      4. Robert Bate‏ @RobertSBate Aug 15
        Replying to @_TekTonic_ @sapinker

        Insert bromide here?

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      5. TekTonic‏ @_TekTonic_ Aug 15
        Replying to @RobertSBate @sapinker

        Yes. Reality can be quite boring. But delusions and fantasies are not adequate substitutes.

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      2. Lude‏ @Lude_F Aug 14
        Replying to @sapinker

        So next, are you gonna assert that poor and rich people are biologically determined to have low/high social status?

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      3. N.G.McClernan‏ @ngmcclernan Aug 15
        Replying to @Lude_F @sapinker

        Pinker only focuses of biological inferiority of women - he lets his pal Razib Khan focus on non-white inferiority.

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      2. Lude‏ @Lude_F Aug 14
        Replying to @sapinker

        Many points unjustifiedly dismissed (selection biais),what are the controls on this pren androgen thing? Not convinced.

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      3. AML‏ @amiguello1 Aug 14
        Replying to @Lude_F @sapinker

        You compare normal women with CAH women, and see that androgen exposure correlates with interests. Hard to dismiss this proof.

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      4. Lude‏ @Lude_F Aug 14
        Replying to @amiguello1 @sapinker

        Correlation does not evidence causation. about a million other variables can interact to lead to interest.

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      5. AML‏ @amiguello1 Aug 14
        Replying to @Lude_F @sapinker

        Like what, parental treatment which is roughly equal?Plus opposite effect is found in boys, and similar in trans people w/ hormone treatment

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      6. Lude‏ @Lude_F Aug 14
        Replying to @amiguello1 @sapinker

        CAH qualifies as intersex.For 1, intersex individuals do not get the same socialization as girls, for instance

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      7. Lude‏ @Lude_F Aug 14
        Replying to @Lude_F @amiguello1 @sapinker

        As is actually stated by this paper. There is no conclusive evidence to causal relation between sexual hormones and interest

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Lude‏ @Lude_F Aug 14
        Replying to @Lude_F @amiguello1 @sapinker

        And to be clear socialization isnt just parents:teachers, peers, media, church, any interaction really

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      2. Jono Murphy‏ @MurphPsych Aug 14
        Replying to @sapinker

        One of the most important lines to demonstrate continued conflation of claim of pref diffs with ''any other claim' not madepic.twitter.com/xBht14Nprz

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      3. Jono Murphy‏ @MurphPsych Aug 14
        Replying to @MurphPsych @sapinker

        But Grant also doesn't deny pref diffs, he denies bio explanation, argues bizarrely for pure nurture (note Damore didn't argue pure nature)pic.twitter.com/1BAg0Hqgwk

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      2. Jono Heher‏ @JonoHeher Aug 13
        Replying to @sapinker

        The outlier which never really gets much attention is the complex story of Iran. 55-70% of academic participation in Stem is female.

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      3. szspagna‏ @szspagna Aug 13
        Replying to @JonoHeher @sapinker

        STEM is easy to tilt when you include biology, which heavily slants female (less math). Cut that to engineering and math and it changes.

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      4. Jono Heher‏ @JonoHeher Aug 13
        Replying to @szspagna @sapinker

        That's why I cited Iran. Iran has the highest level female enrollment in university level physics (55%) https://www.aps.org/units/fps/newsletters/2002/july/urry.pdf …

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    2. Andrew Miller‏ @JewLover1488 Aug 13
      Replying to @sapinker

      Wow just wow i cant even im literally shaking rn

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