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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker 18 Jul 2017

    It's a really bad idea to tell students words are violence, @JonHaidt and @glukianoff writehttps://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/07/why-its-a-bad-idea-to-tell-students-words-are-violence/533970/?utm_source=twb …

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      1. RAMSpacek‏ @ramspacek 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @BjornLomborg and

        But words ARE violence. Why, just yesterday a conjunctive adverb nearly bit my head off. However...

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      1. The Demon Karber of Fleet Street‏ @gregkarber 4 Aug 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @Evan_McMullin and

        Milo in these speeches identifies illegal immigrants on campus and rallies people against them. I wish these pieces would mention that.

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      2. Domain Hostmaster‏ @DNHostmaster 18 Jul 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @JonHaidt @glukianoff

        Not if it incites hate or violence. And a disturbing undertone can be used to do this without using violent or hateful terms.

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      3. Chibi Thomas Jefferson's Ghost‏ @PixyMisa 18 Jul 2017
        Replying to @DNHostmaster @sapinker and

        Particularly then. If you can't distinguish words from violence, you can't function at all.

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      4. Domain Hostmaster‏ @DNHostmaster 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @PixyMisa @sapinker and

        So you argue that inciting a riot should therefore not be a crime? Conspiracy should be legal? Yeah, right.

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      5. Chibi Thomas Jefferson's Ghost‏ @PixyMisa 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @DNHostmaster @sapinker and

        No.

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      6. Domain Hostmaster‏ @DNHostmaster 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @PixyMisa @sapinker and

        And yet that is exactly your claim. Words are words. There is no such thing as conspiracy without act, that mob rule doesn't exist.

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      7. Chibi Thomas Jefferson's Ghost‏ @PixyMisa 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @DNHostmaster @sapinker and

        No.

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      8. Domain Hostmaster‏ @DNHostmaster 19 Jul 2017
        Replying to @PixyMisa @sapinker and

        So you would agree that words can be hateful, vengeful, incite violence? Or what is your argument?

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      2. Victor Venema‏ @VariabilityBlog 18 Jul 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @karmour_uw and

        I hope that title was chosen by The Atlantic: it is a bad idea to tell students about reality because it is not politically convenient?

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      3. Victor Venema‏ @VariabilityBlog 18 Jul 2017
        Replying to @VariabilityBlog @sapinker and

        No the authors also say it themselves: "This is why the idea that speech is violence is so dangerous." That is so sad.

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      4. Victor Venema‏ @VariabilityBlog 18 Jul 2017
        Replying to @VariabilityBlog @sapinker and

        The NYT article jumps to conclusions, as the authors rightly say. No need to tell people that speaking about a fact they accept is bad.

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      1. Ste (IQ 3 ± 5) Britain's Biggest Cult‏ @StePhilbin 18 Jul 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @JonHaidt @glukianoff

        Well who dun woulda' thunk it. Expanding the definition of violence to include normal things, makes people think violence is normal.

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      1. Frolics on the Roof‏ @daveweeden 18 Jul 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @JonHaidt @glukianoff

        Part of me thinks,"this patronises students" as if they'd accept anything they're told! Then I think, "Oh" also "God" and so on.

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      2.  🔴‏ @bigreddot 4 Aug 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @Evan_McMullin and

        Publicly outing an LGB or Trans person without their consent is violence. It can result in economic deprivation, physical assault, or worse

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      1. RGGC‏ @rggc1 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @MiklosCseszneky and

        But it's true. You can seriously offend through them and sometimes consequences are unpredictible for the offended person

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      1. G$ Climate Sci‏ @ClimEducator_BG 18 Jul 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @JonHaidt @glukianoff

        Article seems impossibly naive in that the authors seem to buy Fox 'news' talking points about s's needing safe spaces from offence. Much bs

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      1. Keith Barrett‏Verified account @KeithBarrett 5 Aug 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @JonHaidt @glukianoff

        I'm never offended by words in conversation, unless I determine it was intentional. I come from the "words will never hurt me" generation.

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