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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker 28 Mar 2017

    The Bell Curve: I don't agree with it on race, but public discussion of the book has been ignorant and dishonest. http://www.quillette.com/2017/03/27/a-tale-of-two-bell-curves/ …

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      1. Ben Winegard‏ @BenWinegard 28 Mar 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        @epoe thanks for sharing. Room for debate as long as the focus is on the real book and not the fictitious version.

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      2. Redi Doti‏ @DwightDunker 28 Mar 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Why don't you agree with it on race?

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      3. Arthur B.  🚀‏ @ArthurB 28 Mar 2017
        Replying to @DwightDunker @sapinker @QuilletteM

        it says so in the article: "Many scholars in the field have noted that..."

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      4. Redi Doti‏ @DwightDunker 28 Mar 2017
        Replying to @ArthurB @sapinker @QuilletteM

        they're not trying to be PC?

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      2. Timothy Verstynen‏ @tdverstynen 28 Mar 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        Right. The real disgrace is salacious causal interpretations based on purely correlational data. My undergrads could do better!

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      1. (((LS Mitchell)))‏ @LSMitchell 28 Mar 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        what do they write about race with which you disagree?

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      2. Timothy Castantine 🕴‏ @Castantine 29 Mar 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Problem with race IQ studies is they don't control opportunity/upbringing. In a like/like control, disparities vanish.

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      3. Timothy Castantine 🕴‏ @Castantine 29 Mar 2017
        Replying to @Castantine @sapinker @QuilletteM

        If you supply adjust for parental income as a control, you end up with equivalent IQ across racial spectrum.

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      5. Timothy Castantine 🕴‏ @Castantine 29 Mar 2017
        Replying to @SteveBlogs11 @SteveBlogs1 and

        Race IQ studies were not really pursued after that book. Look at SAT as example.https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/03/05/these-four-charts-show-how-the-sat-favors-the-rich-educated-families …

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      7. Timothy Castantine 🕴‏ @Castantine 29 Mar 2017
        Replying to @SteveBlogs11 @SteveBlogs1 and

        16 points on maternal education level, 19 points on family income scale.

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      9. Timothy Castantine 🕴‏ @Castantine 29 Mar 2017
        Replying to @SteveBlogs11 @SteveBlogs1 and

        That study literally does just that.

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      1. Andrew Graham‏ @SpitTheBluePill 28 Mar 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        But which part don't you agree with? Isn't that unsubstantiated comment just perpetuating the problem?

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      1. Christian Schneider‏ @cschneido 28 Mar 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        I'd love to know now, what you disagree with in detail.

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      2. Evander‏ @Hereditarian98 30 Mar 2017
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        except https://richarddawkins.net/2013/08/steven-pinker-jews-genes-and-intelligence/ … @Dhollizzle @HbdNrx @GetRealist

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      3. Evander‏ @Hereditarian98 5 Sep 2017
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        @Cedarwooded

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      2. Roger Wilson‏ @civicdec 28 Mar 2017
        Replying to @sapinker

        was it strong scholarship? I thought not, based on my layman's read when it was published. I recall it being weak.

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      3. Tony Duncan‏ @tonydunc 28 Mar 2017
        Replying to @civicdec @sapinker

        I read the whole thing and took notes. I found it not credible in a # of ways and a rather simplistic view of evolution

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      4. Roger Wilson‏ @civicdec 29 Mar 2017
        Replying to @tonydunc @sapinker

        fuzzy recollection: intellectual bait & switch; plausible assertions of fact + unsupported speculation re: implicatiions

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