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Attitudes to Lang change: "@sapinker: Grammar pedants claiming to defend standards actually defy them http://on.wsj.com/1CcHQ3V ”
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@sapinker My favorite example is rejection of "yous" or "y'all" as ungrammatical when really they fix a bug, filling a missing plural. -
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@KentPitman@sapinker Not the plural is missing, it is the singular that is not used anymore. -
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@OliverKamm's point. What's proper evolves with (dis)use. MT@Ardubal Not plural missing, singular isn't used anymore.@sapinker -
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@KentPitman@OliverKamm@sapinker This is why we can't have nice things: today's abuse becomes the standard tomorrow.
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@sapinker: Grammar pedants claiming to defend standards actually defy them http://on.wsj.com/1CcHQ3V ”Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@sapinker@Hedgehealth On the other hand, yesterday's P&J headline on front pages has "Fears of falling boulders closes road"Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@sapinker@Dannythefink You need to be highly literate in order to pull off being fashionably illiterate. Note; I'm foreign & unaccountable.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@sapinker@DAaronovitch Hmm. Noticed Pinker's writing clearly illustrated the benefits of a good education: grammatically spot on....Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@sapinker The idea that one person making a mistake is a mistake but one million people making a mistake isn't a mistake is ludicrous.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@sapinker Ex. 2: "I was given a gift." "I" should be indirect object, so logically should be "Me was given..." but we don't say that. 2/2Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@sapinker Lots of things in standard English aren't logical. Example 1: I go, I am going, I do go, I am, I am being, but NOT I do be. 1/2Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@sapinker@DAaronovitch I'm still grumpy enough to find "between you and I" ugly as well as wrong. And don't get me started about "refute".Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@sapinker I'm no prescriptivist, but I prefer it when non-normative use is the product of dialect rather than ignorance.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@sapinker Why no full-stop at the end?What is wrong with you man?You’ll be misspelling colour and flavour next. Slippery slope to barbarism.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@sapinker This is a non-issue. Vast majority get it and there's simply not that many pedants anymore.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@sapinker You mean, it ain't kosher?Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@sapinker: MT Pedants defend non-existent standards http://on.wsj.com/1CcHQ3V ” <~ "If it is in general use, then that is what the language is"Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@sapinker Nonsense. You shouldn't of wrote such rubbish.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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