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Cognitive scientist at Harvard.

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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker 1 Dec 2014

    Kids, animals, objects, those acting in error or passion & esp. schizophrenics are undeterrable so harsh punishment has no practical purpose

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      1. Isegoria‏ @Isegoria 1 Dec 2014
        Replying to @sapinker

        So, is putting down a mad dog harsh punishment or not? @sapinker @hbdchick

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      1. David Pinsen‏ @dpinsen 1 Dec 2014
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        @sapinker @hbdchick it deters *them* from killing again.

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      1. Norman Doering‏ @DoeringNorman 1 Dec 2014
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        @sapinker But imprisonment isn't always punishment, sometimes it just keeps helplessly dangerous people off the street.

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      2. Andrea‏ @Andre1taAndy 1 Dec 2014
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        “@sapinker: Kids, animals, objects, those acting in error or passion are undeterrable, so harsh punishment has no practical purpose”

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      3. Andrea‏ @Andre1taAndy 2 Dec 2014
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        @sapinker yep

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      2. Dr Mike Ward‏ @Schroedinger99 1 Dec 2014
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        @sapinker but I agree that executing ppl who are floridly psychotic is about as rational as executing a farm animal

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      3. Napoleon‏ @NapoleonSMill 1 Dec 2014
        Replying to @Schroedinger99

        @Schroedinger99 @sapinker Which we do all the time.

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      4. Dr Mike Ward‏ @Schroedinger99 1 Dec 2014
        Replying to @NapoleonSMill

        @NapoleonSMill last case I know of was 1386 @sapinker

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      5. Napoleon‏ @NapoleonSMill 1 Dec 2014
        Replying to @Schroedinger99

        @Schroedinger99 @sapinker For dogs it happens all the time ( and you get dogs on farms).

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      6. Dr Mike Ward‏ @Schroedinger99 1 Dec 2014
        Replying to @NapoleonSMill

        @NapoleonSMill destroying dangerous dogs is not a *punishment; in fact it's the most humane way of protecting us from their danger @sapinker

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      7. Napoleon‏ @NapoleonSMill 1 Dec 2014
        Replying to @Schroedinger99

        @Schroedinger99 @sapinker Why would it be impossible to imprison them or release them away from people ?

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      8. Dr Mike Ward‏ @Schroedinger99 1 Dec 2014
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        @NapoleonSMill imprisonment would be cruel & release would be dangerous @sapinker

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      9. Napoleon‏ @NapoleonSMill 1 Dec 2014
        Replying to @Schroedinger99

        @Schroedinger99 @sapinker Was thinking somewhere like Falklands, playing the devils advocate isn't that true in humans?

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      1. George White‏ @GrumpyAnimal 3 Dec 2014
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        @sapinker @acgrayling But undue lenience in many cases (negligent and reckless driving) has huge societal costs.

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      1. The Fox Retired‏ @TheFoxReformed 1 Dec 2014
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        @sapinker Other than satisfying those who desire revenge - or does this not count as a 'practical purpose'?

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      2. Jim Hughes‏ @jeeeem 1 Dec 2014
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        @sapinker Now I feel dumb for giving that rock a timeout when it fell on my toe.

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      3. OG Pet Rock‏ @og_petrock 4 Dec 2014
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        @jeeeem yah imma do it agian bitch

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      1. Mark Alan Zelden‏ @14thWardRanger 1 Dec 2014
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        @sapinker what if said individual is released and kills again?

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      1. Martin Dowds‏ @MartinDowds1 1 Dec 2014
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        @sapinker The purposes of sentencing and also sociological & psychological perspectives on sentencing here: http://sixthformlaw.info/01_modules/mod1/1_3_penal_system_1_principles/02_principles_aims_of_sentencing.htm …

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