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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker Oct 21

    Men and women’s preferences differ more in more developed and egalitarian countries, contra idea that diffs arise from “roles.” Hard lives force 2 sexes to focus on necessities; freedom allows diffs to be expressed.http://science.sciencemag.org/content/362/6412/eaas9899 …

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      2. Nicholas Blauch‏ @nmblauch Oct 21
        Replying to @sapinker

        don't see how this is contra idea of roles. rather, economic prosperity simply allows for more substantive social construction of gendered roles. not obviously innate and still possibly (probably) influenced by early patriarchal forces. what am i missing?

        16 replies 1 retweet 22 likes
      3. Thomas Newman‏ @thmnewman Oct 22
        Replying to @nmblauch @sapinker

        Those "patriarchal forces" must be pretty quick off the mark to have infants conforming to gender roles within days of being born. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0163638300000321 …

        5 replies 0 retweets 26 likes
      4.  🌎 The  🎃 SPOOKY 🚀 Cosmist  🎃  🌌 Insurrection  ✊  🏴‏ @yungneocon Oct 24
        Replying to @thmnewman @nmblauch @sapinker

        A study from 18 years ago by authors who have been discredited oh me oh my??? If only we had meta-analyses across many substantive areas that demonstrated no consistent substantial mean differences not explainable by some other contingent factor...oh wait.

        1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
      5. Thomas Newman‏ @thmnewman Oct 24
        Replying to @yungneocon @nmblauch @sapinker

        "Authors who have been discredited"? Maybe by The Guardian. Simon Baron-Cohen is a University of Cambridge professor

        2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      6.  🌎 The  🎃 SPOOKY 🚀 Cosmist  🎃  🌌 Insurrection  ✊  🏴‏ @yungneocon Oct 24
        Replying to @thmnewman @nmblauch @sapinker

        Flaws have been repeatedly found in his work, on autism, on gender, on 'theory of mind', and on similar subjects. He should probably take a hint from his nephew and not be a total chump.

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      7. Martin Smith‏ @MartinWS1994 Oct 25
        Replying to @yungneocon @thmnewman and

        Someone like you should take a hint and read a meta analysis of gender differences observed in toy choices in babies, instead of cherry picking "flaws" in studies and author. Wouldn't that be great https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/icd.2064 …

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      8.  🌎 The  🎃 SPOOKY 🚀 Cosmist  🎃  🌌 Insurrection  ✊  🏴‏ @yungneocon Oct 25
        Replying to @MartinWS1994 @thmnewman and

         🌎 The  🎃 SPOOKY 🚀 Cosmist  🎃  🌌 Insurrection  ✊  🏴 Retweeted  🌎 The  🎃 SPOOKY 🚀 Cosmist  🎃  🌌 Insurrection  ✊  🏴

        Here's 13 reviews, meta-analyses and book length studies on the issue as well discussion of each:https://twitter.com/yungneocon/status/1029218952969371655 …

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         🌎 The  🎃 SPOOKY 🚀 Cosmist  🎃  🌌 Insurrection  ✊  🏴 @yungneocon
        A thread on some research on sex/gender differences and why I hate libertarians & 'classic liberals'
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      9. Rick Carp‏ @rick_carp Oct 25
        Replying to @yungneocon @MartinWS1994 and

        lol ain't children like picking up a toy kinda dumb anyway since the kid is choosing from within the limited framing conditions set by the experimenters and selected only from what is available within the lab, which is obviously an artificial situation in the first place?

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      2. Sir Liberal‏ @SirLiberal Oct 21
        Replying to @sapinker

        Luckily you don’t work for @Google

        1 reply 2 retweets 117 likes
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      1. Per Engzell‏ @PEngzell Oct 22
        Replying to @sapinker

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        Sociologist here. This finding in fact confirms exactly what gender scholars have argued for a long timehttps://twitter.com/PEngzell/status/1052992972084695040 …

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        Per Engzell @PEngzell
        Replying to @HSjaastad
        Neat finding and seems rather consistent with what scholars of gender have argued for a long time, e.g., @EnglandPaula in 2010 or Charles & Bradley, Am J Sociol 2009 pic.twitter.com/KbtnSQFrTs
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      2. RandomWalkInScience‏ @RWiSblog Oct 21
        Replying to @sapinker

        This may be true but the measure of egalitarianism is problematic. E.g. measures of gender equality focus on formal equality in a limited number of areas of little relevance to most people.

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      3. Michael Nadolsky‏ @RevrseSolipsist Oct 21
        Replying to @RWiSblog @sapinker

        Unfortunately, you're right: Equality of opportunity means very little to people because that means so.e people will have more than them. What matters to them is equality of outcome.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      4. Warren‏ @warrenleggatt Oct 21
        Replying to @RevrseSolipsist @RWiSblog @sapinker

        If equality of outcome is desired how do you propose solving the imbalance in university courses taken. Do we force women to take stem or block male intake and lower overall count of people entering those fields. Neither sounds good

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Michael Nadolsky‏ @RevrseSolipsist Oct 22
        Replying to @warrenleggatt @RWiSblog @sapinker

        You should read more carefully before challenging people.

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Warren‏ @warrenleggatt Oct 22
        Replying to @RevrseSolipsist @RWiSblog @sapinker

        Hmm, looks like it will teach me for having a few twitter windows open at once lol. Think my reply went to the wrong person, sorry about that :)

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. End of conversation
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      2. Ragnar‏ @Riskarr5 Oct 21
        Replying to @sapinker

        Studies like this drive feminists mad. Traditional gender roles are supposed to be the patriarchy in action. Always.

        1 reply 1 retweet 22 likes
      3. Nils  🇪🇺‏ @neltymind Oct 22
        Replying to @Riskarr5 @sapinker

        I am not sure this study says anything on the matter of patriarchy. The fact that a better economic situation allows women to freely choose their occupation, doesn't say anthing about the cause of different choices. Could still be caused by nature or nurture.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Gary Sorjosen‏ @sorjosen Oct 22
        Replying to @neltymind @Riskarr5 @sapinker

        I need to quote @harari_yuval here:pic.twitter.com/JQi1N5wHEJ

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      5. Nils  🇪🇺‏ @neltymind Oct 22
        Replying to @sorjosen @Riskarr5 and

        It dorsn't say what forms your desires. Nature? Nurture? A combination if both? It doesn't offer any insight on the question.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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