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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker Oct 13

    Another sign of secularization: Even those who call themselves religious talk less about God. Religions are becoming tribal & political, not creeds about the supernatural.https://nyti.ms/2QQF5yl 

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      2. Carl Sagan‏ @demon_haunted_ Oct 14
        Replying to @sapinker

        Religions can no longer make unchallenged assertions about reality so long as they do not seize secular power, provided they cannot coerce belief. #DemonHauntedWorld page 272 #CarlSagan

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      3. Melissa Rigler‏ @mermaidgirl10 Oct 14
        Replying to @demon_haunted_ @sapinker

        That’s not always true. The Episcopal church continuously challenges the Bible and supernatural. But it too has become very tribal and political. They consider being a Republican a moral issue.

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      4. Carl Sagan‏ @demon_haunted_ Oct 14
        Replying to @mermaidgirl10 @sapinker

        Indeed, religions are becoming more tribal and political as the man says ( @sapinter ). And I find it refreshing to hear that the Episcopal Church are challenging their unchallenged assertions about reality. That has to be a positive development.

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      2. Exhausted Pigeon‏ @BrienBrigid Oct 13
        Replying to @sapinker @aliamjadrizvi

        As an atheist I don't have a problem with God-speak lessening, but I am concerned about the concomitant decline in discussion about morality. You don't need morality to be Christian - evidence of that is everywhere - but you do need it to be a decent social person.

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      1. Meggnog‏ @0newaytweet Oct 14
        Replying to @sapinker

        The author reminds me of this free sample guy at my local Target last weekend. He asked me about my marriage and told me about an ex-fiance and then asked me what church I belong to. Just do your job. I wouldn't even have these conversations with a casual friend.

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      1. John Richardson‏ @1anhaga Oct 13
        Replying to @sapinker

        "I’d try to rephrase those [religious terms] in ordinary vernacular, but I couldn’t seem to articulate their meanings." I was taught in elementary school "if you can't say it in your own simple words you don't understand it."

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      2. Raj‏ @trilobite_1970 Oct 13
        Replying to @sapinker

        Definitely not in India. We are still celebrating the ancient past aided by the pliant propagandist media.

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      3. Raj‏ @trilobite_1970 Oct 13
        Replying to @trilobite_1970 @sapinker

        Interestingly (or disturbingly) the highest number of believers are in the corporate sector, especially in the IT sector.

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      1. Mark Forman‏ @MarkDForman Oct 13
        Replying to @sapinker

        There's data in the other direction that populations are becoming more "mystical," even as they get less "religious." I'm a bit too lazy to pull the numbers at the moment, but claimed rates of direct, mystical experience are sharply up in the last few decades.

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      2. Jonathan Wilkinson‏ @johnmusofficial Oct 13
        Replying to @sapinker

        its funny that Steve links this author to illustrate a point opposite to the one the pieces author intends. the author is bemoaning, Steve basking 😁

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      3. goathunter‏ @goathunter7 Oct 13
        Replying to @johnmusofficial @sapinker

        🤫😛

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      2. Jeremy Stamper‏ @jeremymstamper Oct 13
        Replying to @sapinker

        Even the pope said there’s no Hell.

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      3. Damian Butler‏ @damian_butler Oct 13
        Replying to @jeremymstamper @sapinker

        ...But then blames the devil for intergenerational pederast-protecting in the Catholic church.

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      1. Leora Zalik‏ @LeoraCZ Oct 13
        Replying to @sapinker

        Yet, in my own life, quite the opposite is true.

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      1. Perrin  ⚽‏ @Dixongenuous Oct 13
        Replying to @sapinker

        Progress?

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      2. Melanie Conroy‏ @MelanieConroy1 Oct 14
        Replying to @sapinker

        While I don’t doubt religious language has declined everywhere, the regional aspect of this article is highly doubtful. I would need a lot of proof to believe that people in New York don’t know what the words “God” or “grace” mean. The author could be using them in an odd way.

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      3. Melanie Conroy‏ @MelanieConroy1 Oct 14
        Replying to @MelanieConroy1 @sapinker

        I have lived in New York State and the South and I can tell you the biggest difference is religious diversity. If you use terms in the same way as other people, they understand.

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      4. Melanie Conroy‏ @MelanieConroy1 Oct 14
        Replying to @MelanieConroy1 @sapinker

        If anything, being in a religious monoculture means you can use all the buzzwords without thinking about what they mean.

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