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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker Oct 12

    Washington Becomes 20th State to End Death Penalty: A seemingly inexorable trend, globally and within the last Western holdout, the US. It may go the way of slavery. https://www.ozy.com/presidential-daily-brief/pdb-89917/condemned-89950#.W8C_SBhnLus.twitter … via @ozy

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      1. Apes2Angels‏ @Apes2Angels Oct 12
        Replying to @sapinker @CHSommers @ozy

        I recall hearing Scott Glen say that, up until his role in Silence of Lambs, he was firmly anti death penalty. Then he went to FBI's Behavioural Science unit & listened to tapes made by serial killers of their victims. Overnight he became a supporter of death for some criminals

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      2. Selfish Citizenship‏ @SelfishCitizen Oct 12
        Replying to @sapinker @CHSommers @ozy

        So when a prisoner serving life in prison without parole kills a guard, another prisoner, or escapes to kill a civilian or witness, what would be the sentence upon conviction if there is no death penalty? Double life as if that is real?

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      3. Scott Galliford‏ @ScottGalliford Oct 12
        Replying to @SelfishCitizen @sapinker and

        Never mind the money that has to be spent that can go to other uses.

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      2. Robert Fiore‏ @RobertFiore1 Oct 12
        Replying to @sapinker @Noahpinion @ozy

        Slavery was ended by a war.

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      3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12
        Replying to @RobertFiore1 @sapinker @ozy

        In America!

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      4. Robert Fiore‏ @RobertFiore1 Oct 12
        Replying to @Noahpinion @sapinker @ozy

        Ergo, for slavery to be entirely eradicated in the Americas, it had to be eradicated in the country where it required a war, as well as others where it was ended by other means.

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      2. Fatoosh‏ @Fatooosh34 Oct 12
        Replying to @sapinker @CHSommers @ozy

        bad idea. capital punishment is a good that should be reserved for most extreme cases but it should be retained and reinstated where it has been abolished.

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      3. Verum Serum‏ @TheVerumSerum Oct 13
        Replying to @Fatooosh34 @sapinker and

        Yes, I too believe in giving the government power to legally execute people.

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      4. Fatoosh‏ @Fatooosh34 Oct 15
        Replying to @TheVerumSerum @sapinker and

        only *guilty* ppl and only in most extreme cases

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      5. Verum Serum‏ @TheVerumSerum Oct 15
        Replying to @Fatooosh34 @sapinker and

        The fact that even a small percentage of falsely guilty people will die is enough to warrant it to never be okay. The justice system is supposed to be about rehabilitation. Death isn't rehabilitation

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      6. Fatoosh‏ @Fatooosh34 Oct 15
        Replying to @TheVerumSerum @sapinker and

        No

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      1. Conrad Kirbi‏ @CK_Kirbi Oct 12
        Replying to @sapinker @CHSommers @ozy

        Slavery has been on the rise, globally, for the better part of a decade now. Methinks you used the wrong metaphor.

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      1. Scott Galliford‏ @ScottGalliford Oct 12
        Replying to @sapinker @CHSommers @ozy

        Let’s hope not.

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      2. Myron Gaines  🇺🇸 🇮🇳‏ @MyronGaines1337 Oct 12
        Replying to @sapinker @ozy

        I dunno man. Of the states that have the death penalty, quite a few are ardent about it, even in the face of corporate and European embargoes on relevant drugs.

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      1. Thomas Warren‏ @realTomWarren Oct 13
        Replying to @sapinker @ozy

        A bunch of weirdos dreaming of ways to be humane to individuals who treated their victims inhumanely...

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      1. Mark Bulger‏ @Mark_Bulger Oct 13
        Replying to @sapinker @CHSommers @ozy

        Then again, the tide may turn, as it often has in the past. And then, more deserving murderers can be executed. We can hope.

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      1. Jack Goss‏ @themoodygoose Oct 12
        Replying to @sapinker @CHSommers @ozy

        No death. Too easy. For murderers and pedophiles, it’s simple: 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, building iPhones until they die from natural causes or succeed at taking their own life. Give some little Chinese fella a chance at life. Death is too easy and prison to chill.

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      2. Itzik Basman‏ @ItzikBasman Oct 12
        Replying to @sapinker @ozy

        There’s a good principled argument for it—retribution in certain horrific cases. That is to say, cases in which retribution screams loudly and silences other three sentencing rationales. Best pragmatic argument against it is error. Tailored use may reconcile these arguments.

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      3. Yenrap Rellin‏ @sisboombahbah Oct 13
        Replying to @ItzikBasman @sapinker @ozy

        The retribution has been known to not ease the suffering of victims. And since even murderers have families the death penalty usually increases suffering. So what’s the point? Barbaric.

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      4. Itzik Basman‏ @ItzikBasman Oct 13
        Replying to @sisboombahbah @sapinker @ozy

        Easing suffering isn’t the issue. It’s channeling social outrage at perpetrated horror. Retribution-punishment-is a policy pillar of criminal sentencing with three others, specific and general deterrence and rehabilitation. Some crimes deserve only the most august punishment.

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