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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker Oct 3

    The Grievance Studies Scandal: Five Academics Respond https://quillette.com/2018/10/01/the-grievance-studies-scandal-five-academics-respond/ … via @QuilletteM

    12:20 PM - 3 Oct 2018
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      2. Stan Patton‏ @StanRockPatton Oct 3
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        So, is this what I'm looking at?pic.twitter.com/nZ2PPZ46vs

        8 replies 1 retweet 19 likes
      3. Russ Mayne‏ @ebefl Oct 3
        Replying to @StanRockPatton @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Did you read the reviewer comments? All the 'this is an exciting paper' didn't sound like 'Sigh'...

        1 reply 0 retweets 16 likes
      4. Stan Patton‏ @StanRockPatton Oct 3
        Replying to @ebefl @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Russ, watch out for "Selection Bias" when you see the word "Selected" in the phrase "Selected Reviewer Comments." When you watch a "man-on-the-street" interview montage on YouTube and everyone seems to be hilariously dumb, what do you conclude?

        1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
      5. Russ Mayne‏ @ebefl Oct 3
        Replying to @StanRockPatton @sapinker @QuilletteM

        I guess it’s possible reviewers wrote ‘this is a very exciting paper’ recommended it for publication but actually thought ‘sigh’. Isn’t it also possible they liked the papers?

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      6. Stan Patton‏ @StanRockPatton Oct 4
        Replying to @ebefl @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Russ, real people wrote those reviews. Those were the particular ones Selected, from among ostensibly a much larger number, to be Shown to you. If I'm trying to sell you an orchard that yields bad apples on average, I'm going to Show you a basket of the best Selected apples.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Russ Mayne‏ @ebefl Oct 4
        Replying to @StanRockPatton

        Stan, do you have any actual evidence or is this all conjecture?

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      8. Stan Patton‏ @StanRockPatton Oct 4
        Replying to @ebefl

        Since the authors are incentivized to bias their Selection to reinforce their snarkily-written thesis, and did not bother giving us the Whole picture, it's highly unlikely that the Selected responses are representative. I don't assume anyone is good faith in Culture Warfare.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Russ Mayne‏ @ebefl Oct 4
        Replying to @StanRockPatton

        So, no. Ok, got it. 👍🏻👍🏻

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
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      2. victor yodaiken‏ @vyodaiken Oct 3
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Citing quillette in a complaint about low academic standards is like citing Trump in a complaint about sexual harrassment.

        2 replies 3 retweets 11 likes
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      2. Richard Ward‏ @IamRichardWard Oct 3
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Common sense and rational thought are making a comeback!

        1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
      3. Leandro Cardoso‏ @siegnant Oct 3
        Replying to @IamRichardWard @sapinker @QuilletteM

        I doubt it. At most they'll be more careful with the names of those who submit papers to these "academic" journals.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Richard Ward‏ @IamRichardWard Oct 3
        Replying to @siegnant @sapinker @QuilletteM

        That may be true, but at the very least, the damage to public credibility of these institutions is done. They rely on the ability to manipulate public opinion and public policy, this will almost undoubtedly harm them there.

        0 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
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      2. Jackson Pemberton‏ @pathconsult Oct 3
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        It seems that the subjective nature of postmodern philosophy leads directly to totalitarianism in the right political setting. As Feynman said ‘It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.’

        2 replies 1 retweet 9 likes
      3. Peter Schaefer‏ @peterschaeferac Oct 3
        Replying to @pathconsult @sapinker @QuilletteM

        What experiments do you use in philosophy?

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. Michael Myers but he's kissing Putin‏ @jjoshyloves Oct 3
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        lol this was not a systematic, controlled experiment. stop falling for this

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Tekamthi Lalawethika‏ @tlalawethika Oct 3
        Replying to @jjoshyloves @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Do you have trouble with comprehension

        0 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
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      1. Don Trumpussolini‏ @Trumpussolini Oct 3
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        “His talk begins as foolishness and ends as evil madness” (Ecclesiastes 10:13) Excellent scripture burn!

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      1. Christina Behme‏ @ChristinaBehme4 Oct 3
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        One could laugh if it weren't so sad. Mostly for the minorities and disadvantaged individuals who will suffer as a result of the irresponsible grievance industry

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      2. Taylor Dotson‏ @dots_t Oct 3
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Too poorly designed to show much. That few low-tier journals take a hoax paper aligning w/ claimed political bias doesn't logically imply that good papers that align or good papers that don't align don't get published. Hard to not see this too as ideological research.

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      3. Mitboy‏ @MitboyCLJD Oct 3
        Replying to @dots_t @sapinker @QuilletteM

        What would be better tier joirnals?

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Jon  💀 Skeletone‏ @shotscarecrow Oct 4
        Replying to @MitboyCLJD @dots_t and

        The ones these researchers approached initially, and who rejected their hoax papers?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. 𝐇𝐮𝐦𝐚𝐧  ✍‏ @TheSithSeth Oct 4
        Replying to @shotscarecrow @MitboyCLJD and

        Exactly. These were obscure low tier open access journals with bare to None peer review accepting 7/20 hoax papers. This is blown out of proportion.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Mitboy‏ @MitboyCLJD Oct 4
        Replying to @TheSithSeth @shotscarecrow and

        Just to be clear, only 6 of these 13 actually said these were fatally flawed papers. Other ones were either still in review or peers didn't consider them as fataly flawed.

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