very strange conversation. bhabha says the world is not perfect and assumes that this is a cost of the Enlightenment. pinker says that this is tantamount to claiming that the past was better (wrong). it is tantamount to claiming that these "costs" would not be there without it.
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Bhabha implies that the uneven distribution of benefits is is caused by adhering to enlightenment principles. Pinker is saying the uneven distribution is correlated to the degree and length of time of adherance to enlightenment principles.
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Yes it does! It created a huge division between western man and nature that has had the horrible, toxic ramifications of destroying the earth in just 200 years! I write a serious academic critique w/500 ref bibliography in my first book - Sto-ology available on amazon etc.pic.twitter.com/s0AEchDlZ4
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There is another interesting fact. Developed countries have much lower birth rates than developing countries. Consider some possibilities: The touchstone of clean energy production, fusion power, is coming. Doomsayers rarely invent new tools, and are usually wrong.
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I share your hope & optimism but I will not bury my head in the sand to where we are at right now with global warming, deforestation, plastic pollution etc!Peace & Prosperity via clean energy! Not Nuclear as Mr Pinker promotes-would he want the toxic waste buried in his backyard?
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The so called “toxic waste” is potential fuel for much safer future thorium reactors (unless you prefer depleted uranium tank shells). You obviously know little about nuclear technology, and the progress therein.
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Like myth/lie of clean coal, there is no such thing as waste free nuclear power.I'm not a nuclear power expert but anyone can do a little research & find out for themselves. Einstein said definition of insanity is to "keep repeating the same mistake expecting a different outcome"
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Except, the concentrated “waste” can be managed safely, and used as future fuel for advanced reactors. There is little options. Cost per kw/hr of large-scale photovoltaic energy (Inc. Capital cost) ~0.22$. Cost at PVNGS, ~0.06$.
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OMG! Again, full circle - would you want this 'safe' radioactive waste in your backyard? Be honest. Geez Louise! OR Louis!
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Bhabha gets Kant hilariously wrong. Still, 'Enlightenment' doesn't correlate to anything material at all- it could be Buddhist or Aesthetic. Competitive Nationalism does kill off elitist Paideia in favor of STEM subjects. That's always good. http://socioproctology.blogspot.com/2018/09/steve-pinker-vs-homi-bhabha-cashing-in.html …
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Bhanha is, as usual, an obscurantist.
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The first verse of revelation from the Quran was the commandment Read! Revealed during Europe's Dark age very little reading was going on. Take the Quran out of the world's history and see where your vaunted "enlightenment" lands. The whole world benefited from Quran's presence
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Dr. Bhabha's position is unclear. Perhaps "tension" would be a better word than "paradox". Enlightenment humanism seeks maximization of well being, so that policy principles are generally general rather than universal, applying only when they serve humanism's purpose.
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Any resolution of the question of when to recognize an exception or follow the general rule can raise the issue of whether the resolution was genuinely humanistic or part of a pattern of favoritism. Tensions between competing reasons and interests are characteric of humanism.
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Shoulda been all like, waddup my Homi?
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Do you not have goggles for the occasion, Prof.
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With our micro-temporal life spans, we bias our “data thinking” towards the subjective. Progress is difficult to see within our single data point. Pinker brings historical data into the discussion, which creates a perturbation in the more subjective conscience.
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First, one needs to establish the underlying premises of “The Enlightenment”—beyond simply stating it’s source is reason and science. Most material progress has been created by that creature called the entrepreneur. A rare species only found in free environments of expression.
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Maybe you need the plural : Enlightenments
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