Do you think the same logic applies to regulations discouraging plastic bags?
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Last time I was in Montreal (probably 2009?) they charged ~15 cents per plastic bag - I think a solution like that makes sense: creates an incentive to use less bags. Maybe we should just charge a small amount for straws (eg 50 cents) instead of outright banning them?
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Also, according to two separate (UK & Danish) studies, plastic bags are less of a problem than others (having less of an environmental impact than the alternatives).
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Here we have biodegradable plastic bags that cost 4 times more than a normal plastic bag, but it sure is a better alternative, no?
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Not necessarily - depends on if they actually degrade and on how much energy goes into making them.
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I couldn't agree more. This is truly propaganda, so easy for corporations to embrace because they can eliminate an extra cost and appear "environmental." But individuals should not be made to feel guilty in their tiny lives for a global problem.
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It is now a global problem BECAUSE no one was made to feel any ecological concern when it mattered/couldve made a bigger difference.
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90% of the plastics polluting the ocean come from just ten rivers and NOT one of those rivers is in America or Europe. "Environmentalists" should stop grasping at straws. That is just virtue signaling and it ignores the real sources of the problem.https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/06/90-of-plastic-polluting-our-oceans-comes-from-just-10-rivers/ …
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Sitting here right now drinking an iced coffee with no straw because somewhere a long time ago I saw a pic of a straw lodged into the nose of a sea turtle (or something like that). Worked for me. I don't see how small individual acts can't make a difference too. Awareness works.
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But doesnt such action (going strawless) prove the point being made that it makes more sense to appeal to the individual thru positve consequences than thru what may well be unenforeceable laws for a cause with still yet many questions to its actual "cause"?
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Nope - only government action works on this kind of thing. How many bars voluntarily had smoke bans before it was enforced? Now even smokers in general prefer it.
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The pt I'm trying to make is that (some? most?) ppl DO want to help but don't know how in a situation where we cannot see the end result of our actions. We have to take it on faith that a small act will make a dent in a behemoth of a problem. But ppl are willing to try.
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Point well made and well taken.
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My personal rule: If you criticize a plan of action to solve a problem, you must simultaneously advance a solution. Otherwise, get out of the way.
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I agree. Its like feeding a 3 year old who refuses everything you suggest while also refusing to come up with an alternative. He just likes saying No.
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Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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Actually we’re the “let’s try something that actually works instead of patting ourselves on the back for doing something that’s just performative” people. You must’ve taken a wrong turn somewhere.
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It can both work and backfire at the same time. Shaming a specific action can reduce that action while building resentment toward shaming which results in defiance. I think shaming by the left in the US is the primary cause of Donald Trump's election, for example.
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Agree... troublesome in a strange media landscape but if one can back it upp with facts, explain it and get to show it... it can work
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