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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker Jul 25

    NYT op-ed by Kathryn Paige Harden on Lee et al. is a rare acknowledgement that we’re not blank slates, & that this knowledge is compatible with a commitment to fairness. “Why Progressives Should Embrace the Genetics of Education” @kph3khttps://nyti.ms/2JRgQvO 

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      2. texas brainsaw wrastler‏ @neuronsparker Jul 25
        Replying to @sapinker @kph3k

        How about we start with all the material and non-pseudoscientific ways that students are disadvantaged? Let’s start with the entrenched wealth from which you benefit

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      3. Rational Thinker 69‏ @Rationalist69 Jul 25
        Replying to @neuronsparker @sapinker @kph3k

        This article isn’t pseudo-scientific, and represents a study with an N of over a million. Considering that doesn’t eliminate other considerations, but the point is that it appears relevant

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      4. texas brainsaw wrastler‏ @neuronsparker Jul 25
        Replying to @Rationalist69 @sapinker @kph3k

        Apply it to the individual that you can select for systematically and get back to me, which was this other dude’s point and a thing you cannot do

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      6.  🎃Anthony Scary-mucci 🎃‏ @itsbirdemic Jul 25
        Replying to @smith_valence @neuronsparker and

        Heritability isn't a measure of "genetic-ness", it's probably not half, and it's certainly not a single value for all humans across different environments/samplings. This isn't very predictive and not really helpful unless you want to enact eugenics.

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      7. Valence Smith‏ @smith_valence Jul 25
        Replying to @itsbirdemic @neuronsparker and

        It's more than half, but it varies with age. The idea that genetics aren't relevant is pretty absurd. Because chimpanzees are less intelligent than humans not because of genes, but because of chimp culture and environment ;)https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4270739/ …

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      8.  🎃Anthony Scary-mucci 🎃‏ @itsbirdemic Jul 25
        Replying to @smith_valence @neuronsparker and

        For an explicit rebuttal to Plomin's thinking see also this paper by Turkheimer https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/fff6/822caea2f3d77b7c6337deed7f0602ed00e5.pdf …

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      9. Valence Smith‏ @smith_valence Jul 27
        Replying to @itsbirdemic @neuronsparker and

        Stephen Hsu has some very interesting videos on his approach and discusses some of the potential just a couple months ago. We have gotten height to a few cm.https://youtu.be/gw0Wqd_D3_o 

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      2. NEET Fella‏ @Croatian_Fella Jul 25
        Replying to @sapinker @kph3k

        I don't know how anyone can not get dystopian visions when a progressive starts talking about genetics and fairness and harnessing science to create a more equal society.

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      2. Sanat Mishra‏ @randomtrude Jul 25
        Replying to @sapinker @kph3k

        Sir, which book of yours should I start reading? And as a 19 YO will I be able to comprehend it?

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      3. Valence Smith‏ @smith_valence Jul 25
        Replying to @randomtrude @sapinker @kph3k

        I would recommend his newest book, Enlightenment Now.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Sanat Mishra‏ @randomtrude Jul 25
        Replying to @smith_valence @sapinker @kph3k

        Goodreads says its a follow-up of The Better Angels of Our Nature, so can I read it as a stand alone? And more importantly does it require too much intellectual ability to comprehend it? Because I tried reading Nietzsche, and pretty much everything went above my head.

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      5. Noam Hudson‏ @NoamHudson Jul 25
        Replying to @randomtrude @smith_valence and

        much clearer than Nietzsche. I'd say read Better Angels first

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      1. Susan Carroll‏ @SueHolywood Jul 26
        Replying to @sapinker @StuartJRitchie @kph3k

        This guy is a friend and colleague of Noam Chomsky but still insists all progressives believe in the 'blank slate'. Drives me nuts

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      1. steve pittelli‏ @StevePittelli Jul 25
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        https://bit.ly/2A7wXpz 

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      2. Jeffery L Irvin Jr‏ @JefferyIrvinPhD Jul 25
        Replying to @sapinker @kph3k

        Please let me know if I've got this right. Economic success has some nebulous relationship to formal education, formal education depends on winning the genetic lottery; therefore, we need to offset somehow the natural benefits of the genetic lottery in the name of justice.

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      1. KING LULU‏ @Rothbard91 Jul 28
        Replying to @sapinker @kph3k

        Typical progressive to present this as a revelation while my grandmother already knew people are different. She also knew forceful intervention to reach 'equality' always leads to an disastrous totalitarian regime (Animal farm 2.0)

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      1. Dr Caveman‏ @The_Dr_Caveman Jul 26
        Replying to @sapinker @kph3k

        "No one earned his DNA sequence, yet some of us are benefiting enormously from it. By showing us the links between genes and educational success, this new study reminds us that everyone should share in our national prosperity, regardless of which variants he happens to inherit"

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