Does this acceptance of enlightenment values and modernity translate into good will towards Israel? This is the ultimate litmus test for any such claim.
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Acceptance of enlightenment values and also opposing violence (from both sides) don’t go hand in hand?
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I specifically wrote "goodwill towards Israel". Enlightenment values are not a warrant for selective human rights. The question is: do you accept that the Jewish state is a legitimate entity with the right for self defense and power?
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The crucial point is that Enlightenment values are not "western values", but universal. The west just had a lucky break implementing them, and look where they took us. Separating the ideas from the west as a power block is a crucial step to help their worldwide acceptance.
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About the Muslim we should be serious and not too optimistic.
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Keep walking the walk Mr Pinker. Thoroughly looking forward to this tomorrow.
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Here in Sweden one court decided a man should be allowed to live w his underage cousin-bride, and another dismissed a woman telling her she should have talked w her husband's family as they are of higher social standing than hers. Enlightenment is not doing so well right now.
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There was an intersting Times piece by Matt Ridley 23/11/15 - Why Muslims are Turning Away from Islam - which argued that no-belief is the fastest growing belief system in the world.
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Steven you’re great but this is of. Conservative Islam is also rising, mainly through (wahabist)dawa foundations funded by SA. Riyad, Kabul, Jakarta, Istanbul, Marakech were all more secular in the 80s. The great mosque siege was a turning point, conservatism has risen ever since
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Certainly sounds very interesting; I’ll give it a look
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Maybe a postmodern end of metanarrative but not liberal Enlightenment values!
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@sapinker is a fraud. He called me "anti-Semitic" "racist" "self-hating Jew" before blocking me just because he didn't agree with my self-criticism of my own ppl and his use of Jewish identity politics.#Snowflake#FreeSpeechThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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I’ve been saying this for a while. The people carrying the torch of the Enlightenment 100 years from now will be in the Middle East, not the West.
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Believe it or not, the thirst for enlightenment values throughout the Muslim world is growing. Listen to the
@SecularJihadist podcast,@SarahTheHaider,@MoTheAtheist etc to get an idea. Meanwhile, people here are ditching true liberal values in exchange for BS identity politics.
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