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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker Jul 16

    Are depression & anxiety soaring? (no) Do antidepressants work? (yes) Which sex is more vulnerable to anxiety & depression? (women) Substance abuse? (men) These & other mental health facts explained on Our World in Datahttps://ourworldindata.org/mental-health 

    12:37 PM - 16 Jul 2018
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      2. creepy crawly nomad‏ @ccnomad Jul 16
        Replying to @sapinker

        You mean which gender is more likely to interpret & report symptoms in terms that would result in a diagnosis of depression &/or anxiety? Yes, that's women. But I believe those conditions/symptoms develop regardless of gender & are (probably) distributed equally.

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      3. creepy crawly nomad‏ @ccnomad Jul 16
        Replying to @ccnomad @sapinker

        Also from physicians' end: more likely to assert such a diagnosis in females; more reluctant to (take an identical symptom report &) assert such a diagnosis in a male.

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      4. miszminska‏ @miszminska Jul 16
        Replying to @ccnomad @sapinker

        I'm sorry, which part of: "Which sex is more vulnerable to anxiety & depression? - Women" you don't understand?

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      5. miszminska‏ @miszminska Jul 16
        Replying to @miszminska @ccnomad @sapinker

        Gender is the way that an organism expresses their sex behaviorally. In biology we generally refer to "sex roles" rather than "gender roles," but it's the same thing. sex - male/female gender - masculine<->feminine

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      6. miszminska‏ @miszminska Jul 16
        Replying to @miszminska @ccnomad @sapinker

        The words "woman", "girl", "man" & "boy" were created for a clear purpose: to distinguish an adult female from a pubescent female and an adult male from a pubescent male. Woman = female "Woman" and "female" aren't two separate phenomena, Jesus f*cking Christ.

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      2. Paula Boddington‏ @PaulaBoddington Jul 16
        Replying to @sapinker

        Do antidepressants work? (Yes) (On some people only) (Others tell their doctors they feel a bit better because they don't want to be rude) (others feel much worse) (others have appalling side and withdrawal effects)

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      2. Elblanc0‏ @el_blanc0 Jul 16
        Replying to @sapinker

        How can substance abuse not be tied into Mental Health? That's a seriously fucked-up compartmentalization of data. Almost as if it's trying to preserve a narrative.

        2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
      3. Bryan Speece‏ @BryanSpeece Jul 16
        Replying to @el_blanc0 @sapinker

        This study does categorize them as mental health issues. "Mental Health" is the title of the study.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Bryan Speece‏ @BryanSpeece Jul 16
        Replying to @BryanSpeece @el_blanc0 @sapinker

        Correction: report, not study

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      5. Elblanc0‏ @el_blanc0 Jul 16
        Replying to @BryanSpeece @sapinker

        Hence, the compartmentalization comment. Show me someone who suffers from substance abuse without underlying depression and anxiety.

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      6. Bryan Speece‏ @BryanSpeece Jul 16
        Replying to @el_blanc0 @sapinker

        To my knowledge alcoholism is a condition separate from depression. However, if you look at the data, it is entirely possible that everyone who falls under substance abuse also falls under depression. Doesn't negate the gender disparity.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Elblanc0‏ @el_blanc0 Jul 16
        Replying to @BryanSpeece @sapinker

        How do you then measure the gender disparity if you can't separate the mental health issues?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Bryan Speece‏ @BryanSpeece Jul 16
        Replying to @el_blanc0 @sapinker

        You can separate them. The report shows more depressed/anxious than substance abusers. Not everyone who is depressed/anxious resorts to substance abuse.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      9. Elblanc0‏ @el_blanc0 Jul 16
        Replying to @BryanSpeece @sapinker

        So now you're saying it is a subset of depression and anxiety sufferers? Because that diverges from what Pinker tweeted. He separated them categorically. I think you and I both agree this is an inaccuracy.

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      2. Max Roser‏Verified account @MaxCRoser Jul 17
        Replying to @kittyjimbo2 @sapinker

        Here is our research on suicides with global data and a perspective on the changes over time: https://ourworldindata.org/suicide  It is fortunately not true that suicide rates have risen considerably in recent decades.

        2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      3. bryan kennedy‏ @xbryanx Jul 17
        Replying to @MaxCRoser @sapinker

        What a fantastic resource. Thanks for putting that together.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      1. Drew Alexander  🎧‏ @badartent Jul 16
        Replying to @sapinker

        AVID reader of your work here - Have you read new one by Michael Pollan... "How to Change Your Mind"? For me, an essential take on mental health through the prism of the new science of psychedelic drugs

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