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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker Jul 13

    The Enlightenment Gave Rise to Racism? Balderdash. Mark Koyama shows that racism goes back millennia, and was amplified by the nationalist particularism of the *Counter*-Enlightenment, not the universalism of the Enlightenment.   https://www.liberalcurrents.com/did-the-enlightenment-give-rise-to-racism/ … via @liberalcurrents

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      2. Turd N Da Punchbowl‏ @turdNDaPB Jul 13
        Replying to @sapinker @ATabarrok @LiberalCurrents

        Race is our built in team jerseys, I’m sure primitive man had more empathy with persons who resembled himself.

        3 replies 2 retweets 26 likes
      3. Paul Nicholas‏ @pnicholas79 Jul 14
        Replying to @turdNDaPB @sapinker and

        Not really. We're tribal creatures. Look at the hunter gatherer tribes discovered in places like the Amazon; or even go as far as Apes with which we share a common ancestor. While certain interaction happens, there is a definite tendency to identify outsiders and be wary.

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      5. Paul Nicholas‏ @pnicholas79 Jul 14
        Replying to @robdaniels8 @turdNDaPB and

        Sorry, it is. Meant to reply to a different one. Oops.

        0 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
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      2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet Jul 13
        Replying to @sapinker

        The idea that "racism goes back millennia" goes against historical consensus (ancient & medieval precursors were, at best, proto-racism). But you generally have contempt for historians, so it doesn't matter.

        24 replies 3 retweets 72 likes
      3. John Chapman‏ @canyonliveoak Jul 14
        Replying to @HeerJeet @sapinker

        The word "barbarian" comes from the Greeks because the folks who lived in the hills spoke in a way that sounded like "BAR BAR". What do you call that?

        4 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
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      2. Adam Smith‏ @K_AdamSmith Jul 13
        Replying to @sapinker @LiberalCurrents

        The Enlightenment brought forth humanism, liberalism, and universalism as pillars of intellectual thought which specifically countered the xenophobic and supremacist mentality of most traditional ideologies.

        2 replies 1 retweet 15 likes
      3. Joe Del Vicario‏ @joedelvicario_ Jul 13
        Replying to @K_AdamSmith @sapinker @LiberalCurrents

        Humanism and universalism dates back to the Renaissance and the Reformation. Liberalism, sure. But liberalism is currently running on Pinker’s euphemism treadmill on full incline and speed thanks to modern “Enlightened” thought.

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      4. Adam Smith‏ @K_AdamSmith Jul 13
        Replying to @joedelvicario_ @sapinker @LiberalCurrents

        Humanism was coined in 1808 by Neithammer to describe a contemporary movement of "classical education" and was later used as a descriptive term for what is now called Renaissance Humanism, which was also a revival of Greek thought, but it is mostly an Enlightenment term.

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      5. Adam Smith‏ @K_AdamSmith Jul 13
        Replying to @K_AdamSmith @joedelvicario_ and

        Universalism has come in many forms, one being the Christian Universalism to which you refer, but as a philosophical concept it is most closely associated with the works of Immanuel Kant and his Categorical Imperative, which is solidly within Enlightenment thought.

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      6. Adam Smith‏ @K_AdamSmith Jul 13
        Replying to @K_AdamSmith @joedelvicario_ and

        Liberalism and American political liberalism are two distinct and separate things; though both are concerned with universal rights and freedoms, the political tradition is muddied by political attempts to force adherence to particular visions of inclusion and ideology.

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      2. Mackenzie Leavitt‏ @mackerdoodle42 Jul 13
        Replying to @sapinker @LiberalCurrents

        Certain enlightenment thinkers were racist. Therefore, the enlightenment gave rise to racism. That’s about the quality of thinking on display in this thread.

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      1. George Miller‏ @Genghis_McCann Jul 14
        Replying to @sapinker @LiberalCurrents

        Racism has been present in every society that ever existed on Earth. But that, of course, doesn't fit the "White privilege" theorists who want to fragment our country into #SJW tribalism.

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      2. scripta manent‏ @vrints_annemie Jul 13
        Replying to @sapinker @LiberalCurrents

        The Arab world is not really influenced by Enlightenment and Darwinisme and they are also racist.And what about Asia.

        1 reply 1 retweet 11 likes
      3. linhdtu‏ @tuduylinh Jul 13
        Replying to @vrints_annemie @sapinker @LiberalCurrents

        Asia is paternalistic and sexist but without the approval of God (Judeo derived like Jehovah, Allah etc ) imo much harder to justify/continue into 21th century. Oppression of one sex over another in Asia mostly based on economic terms, ie wealth, educ ... much easier to erase

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      4. sleepingawake‏ @sleepingawake5 Jul 13
        Replying to @tuduylinh @vrints_annemie and

        Tell that to all the South Koreans freaking out about Yemen refugees.

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      2. GambieRanger‏ @RangerGambie Jul 14
        Replying to @sapinker @LiberalCurrents

        One could argue that the true origin of racism is the Abrahamic monotheisms. Or at least is solidification. ‘We are God’s chosen people’ Is there a more racist assertion than this?

        1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      3. RockyJones_SpaceForce‏ @RSpaceforce Jul 14
        Replying to @RangerGambie @sapinker @LiberalCurrents

        I don’t know. Are Jews a race? Are Muslims a race. I was always taught race and religion are to different things. One is born a member of a “race” but one chooses a religion; just as one chooses political beliefs.

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