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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker Jul 6

    What's gotten into the NY Times? "Happy Birthday Karl Marx - You were right"? Repeated articles against free speech? In Quillette, Larry Sanger replies to the latest one. https://quillette.com/2018/07/04/the-new-york-times-comes-out-against-free-speech/ … via @QuilletteM

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      2. Soren‏ @soreneh Jul 6
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Maybe they think they will get to decide what is said?

        1 reply 0 retweets 12 likes
      3. digitaltrader‏ @digitaltrader Jul 6
        Replying to @soreneh @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Yes! This is precisely the issue that we miss when "educating" people. Free Speech can only exist if ALL speech is free. Terms like "political speech" and "hate speech" can have different meanings to different people. If it's regulated, who gets to be the "Speech Czar"?

        1 reply 1 retweet 18 likes
      4. Soren‏ @soreneh Jul 6
        Replying to @digitaltrader @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Yes, and you only believe in free speech if you do not drown out dissenting voices with noise

        0 replies 1 retweet 7 likes
      5. End of conversation
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      2. PazarMath‏ @JosephPazar Jul 6
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Free speech is the only answer to dogmatism and the issues that arise because of free speech. It’s one of the few things that solves its own problems and creates a net positive outcome for society.

        1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
      3. Dustin Barleycorn 🇺🇸‏ @DustinBarleyco1 Jul 6
        Replying to @JosephPazar @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Free speech is the way we think. To paraphrase @jordanbpeterson, it's better for an idea to die than for a person to. If we don't let our ideas fight with each other, then eventually our persons will fight with each other. I vote for the former.

        2 replies 2 retweets 5 likes
      4. PazarMath‏ @JosephPazar Jul 6
        Replying to @DustinBarleyco1 @sapinker and

        Well put.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Dustin Barleycorn 🇺🇸‏ @DustinBarleyco1 Jul 6
        Replying to @JosephPazar @sapinker and

        Thanks!

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      6. End of conversation
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      2. steve pittelli‏ @StevePittelli Jul 6
        Replying to @sapinker @SteveStuWill @QuilletteM

        Giving bad (fake) medical advice while posing as a medical professional is free speech? Get a clue.

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Brett B.‏ @throwin12packs Jul 6
        Replying to @StevePittelli @sapinker and

        There have been plenty of examples of “good” medical advise turning out to be “bad” advise. This is not a free speech issue.

        0 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      4. End of conversation
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      2. Chris Lu‏ @thegreenfrog611 Jul 6
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        I read the article as an argument Conservatives are using the First Amendment as an argument for certain policy/judicial decisions. It's been the best con-job of conservatives. One's freedom of speech often is another's silencing.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Josh Hawthorne‏ @Kitty_Megatron Jul 6
        Replying to @thegreenfrog611 @sapinker @QuilletteM

        How does my right to speak lower the volume of your voice even one tiny bit? If you have a better argument, then make it. in 2018 your voice can be amplified 1,000,000x thanks to Twitter, Facebook, etc. The answer to bad speech isn't censorship, its more good speech

        0 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
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      2. Adam Tondowsky‏ @136or142 Jul 6
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        If Pinker is for free speech, why would he be unhappy with the article on Karl Marx? Pinker was for free speech until he was against it?

        3 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      3. Jeff Fountain‏ @JeffFountain Jul 6
        Replying to @136or142 @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Even if you are talking about free speech principles rather than how those principles apply to the law, there is a big difference between criticizing a publisher for what they publish, and trying to censor a publisher.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Jeff Fountain‏ @JeffFountain Jul 6
        Replying to @JeffFountain @136or142 and

        If you think ANYONE’S serious defense of free speech needs to exclude the act of public criticism, then you have completely lost the plot.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      5. Adam Tondowsky‏ @136or142 Jul 6
        Replying to @JeffFountain @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Yes, I'm aware of that. The problem is the two concerns that Pinker brought up clearly contradict one another. If Pinker had a problem with the content of the first article and not that the NYT published it, he, at a minimum, should have made that clear.

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      2. Scott Snow Cooper‏ @DrScottyCooper Jul 6
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        I'm not a MAGA man, and I'm damn near a Never-Trumper, but her is why I'm actually - gulp - glad he's President. Here's to another Originalist SCOTUS appointment! 🍻

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      3. Ranbac‏ @befus1 Jul 8
        Replying to @DrScottyCooper @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Agree on the court, but there is no reason for any American to not want to #MAGA

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Scott Snow Cooper‏ @DrScottyCooper Jul 8
        Replying to @befus1 @sapinker @QuilletteM

        You know what I mean 😎

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Ranbac‏ @befus1 Jul 8
        Replying to @DrScottyCooper @sapinker @QuilletteM

        Know what I mean. Despite my personal distaste for the man, he may well be the best president since Reagan, and might even surpass him if it were not for the obstructionism and virtual sedition practiced by the left.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      6. End of conversation
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      2. sylvia sans‏ @sylviasans Jul 6
        Replying to @sapinker @QuilletteM

        I’d add: The NY Times shameful coverage on the Catalonian secessionists crisis

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. irgxf‏ @irgxf Jul 16
        Replying to @sylviasans

        No kidding! Total nonsense crafted from stereotypes of citizens of Spain! #Anglocindescension

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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