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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker Jun 23

    Bambi or Bessie: Are wild animals happier? - by Christie Wilcox, Scientific American Blog Networkhttps://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/bambi-or-bessie-are-wild-animals-happier/ …

    2:22 PM - 23 Jun 2018
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      1. Chris Hopwood‏ @HopwoodChris Jun 23
        Replying to @sapinker

        Nonsense: eg @MercyForAnimals : On dairy farms, newborn calves are taken away from their mothers within just hours of birth. This incredibly cruel practice happens even at your organic, “happy” dairy farm. There’s no way around it: Dairy is and always will be cruel.

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      1. Mango‏ @_Saher_ Jun 23
        Replying to @sapinker

        Maybe "happiness" as understood by humans is not the best measurement criteria? If the animals could choose between avoiding stress on the one hand, and producing wild and healthy offsping on the other, they may choose the latter.

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      2. anthony‏ @anztav72 Jun 23
        Replying to @sapinker

        I know a lion would be happier chasing and ripping into a live animal, rather than eating frozen zoo meat.

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      3. nolawroundhere‏ @nolawroundhere Jun 23
        Replying to @anztav72 @sapinker

        What about this free lion?https://youtu.be/IcFJRymHNaI 

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      4. anthony‏ @anztav72 Jun 24
        Replying to @nolawroundhere @sapinker

        He won't be passing on any DNA

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      2. Jordan Sack‏ @JordanTSack Jun 23
        Replying to @sapinker

        It’s this type of thinking that has infected “science”. “Happiness” is not a relevant thing to measure, fulfillment is. You cannot have fulfillment without highs and lows. Measuring cortisol levels does nothing.

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      1. The penguin‏ @fatmanPenguin Jun 25
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        Only disconnected academics care

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      1. colin lyons‏ @VdlchJ Jun 24
        Replying to @sapinker

        No animal wants their offspring killed and eaten for entertainment No just the human animal Spot the connectionpic.twitter.com/AVvvhLFSlT

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      1.  🌿Sandra 🕊‏ @sandrap4 Jun 23
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        Last paragraph was the best. We are part of nature.

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      2. Kanok Saipov‏ @prlyp Jun 23
        Replying to @sapinker

        I used to chase squirrels for fun. My friend thought it was cruel, but I defended it as giving them a more authentic wild squirrel experience than living in a city with no predators.

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      3. John Spencer‏ @JohnS73 Jun 23
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        Ever catch one?

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      4. Kanok Saipov‏ @prlyp Jun 24
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        No, but I've gotten them to climb small trees and then shaken them out.

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      1. John Paruch Ⓥ‏ @Paruch_John Jun 23
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        Bullshit article. 99% of animal products cube from factory farms and this article tries to justify the horrible treatment of animals. The physical and emotional stress they stuffer is off the charts.

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      1. J V Z‏ @JVZcc Jun 23
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        This paper is also really interesting: http://www.jpe.ox.ac.uk/papers/consistent-vegetarianism-and-the-suffering-of-wild-animals/ …

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