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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker May 31

    Rampage killers (like terrorists) seek publicity. (‘You’ll All Know Who I Am,’ Parkland Suspect Said) Media should think more about how they are being manipulated & inadvertently contribute (saturation coverage, way out of proportion to the numbers).https://nyti.ms/2xrSNmq 

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      2. Cal Sharp‏ @steelycal May 31
        Replying to @sapinker

        Take a cue from televised baseball games - they don't give fans who run onto the field any air time.

        4 replies 4 retweets 81 likes
      3. Adam = #1 Black Crowes Fan‏ @adamthompson4u May 31
        Replying to @steelycal @sapinker

        i use this example all the time and people roll their eyes... is it not the perfect analogy though? it makes complete sense.

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      2. FN‏ @optionomika May 31
        Replying to @sapinker

        We should never learn their names in the first place.

        2 replies 3 retweets 42 likes
      3. Professor Hagen‏ @ProfessorHagen Jun 4
        Replying to @optionomika @sapinker

        In the same article, the NYT names the assailant? Don't name them. The next assailant is trolling for fame.https://nonotoriety.com/ 

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      2. Kyle Kashuv‏Verified account @KyleKashuv Jun 7
        Replying to @sapinker

        Exactly.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailywire.com/news/31289/kashuv-grant-mass-shooters-should-remain-nameless-kyle-kashuv%3famp …

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      2. Toxic 🚫Centrism‏ @ExcludedMuddle May 31
        Replying to @sapinker

        Really shy way of putting it. The media is paying (in notoriety) for “the hit.” If the assassin (terrorists and mass murderers) won’t get paid they won’t do the job. Answer is to jail anyone publicizing publicity-seeking violence. Jail, not fines, to take away the business case.

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      3. Marc Moseley‏ @MarcWMoseley May 31
        Replying to @ExcludedMuddle @sapinker

        IANAL but a law like that on the books in the US, if it ever had a snowflake's chance in hell of being written, passed, and signed, might, just maybe run up against a few challenges on constitutional grounds. Something something Congress shall make no law...

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      4. Toxic 🚫Centrism‏ @ExcludedMuddle May 31
        Replying to @MarcWMoseley @sapinker

        The first amendment has the incitement to violence exception. This is a special case of incitement to violence: "Kill more than 10 people and we'll give you $2 billion in free publicity." Put that way, it's jail time already. This isn't actually any different in effect.

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      5. Brian Soltis‏ @bbsoltis Jun 1
        Replying to @ExcludedMuddle @MarcWMoseley @sapinker

        Holding media legally responsible for the actions of a sick murderer because of the anticipation of media coverage...is insane and dangerous. It’s not even close to incitement.

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      6. Toxic 🚫Centrism‏ @ExcludedMuddle Jun 1
        Replying to @bbsoltis @MarcWMoseley @sapinker

        The status quo is dangerous. The proscription would be limited to publicity-seeking violence.

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      7. Cody Davis‏ @Cdydav Jun 7
        Replying to @ExcludedMuddle @bbsoltis and

        Or, just make a credible argument, sway enough people(viewers) to your side (throw in some public shame for news orgs that continue saturation coverage) and let the market effects change the news orgs behavior. If you want true societal change it has to be bottom up, not top down

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      8. Toxic 🚫Centrism‏ @ExcludedMuddle Jun 7
        Replying to @Cdydav @bbsoltis and

        Why take cocaine out of Coca-cola?

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      1. John Robb‏Verified account @johnrobb Jun 7
        Replying to @sapinker

        The traditional 'media' used to be the main means of relaying stigmergic signals between superempower actors (terrorists, insurgents, etc.). Most of the signalling is now done directly peer to peer using social networking. @jordanbpeterson

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      1. Adam = #1 Black Crowes Fan‏ @adamthompson4u May 31
        Replying to @sapinker

        ...but if the media makes the issue entirely about gun legislation and not about motivation and fame, the problem will be sure to persist and they will always have mass shootings to cover and profit from... those rascals!

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      1. Keenan O'Meara‏ @keenanarmstrong May 31
        Replying to @sapinker

        I’m suspicious they know and give zero shits.

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      2. Hugh Michaels‏ @HughMichaels May 31
        Replying to @sapinker

        By the same token, if we all stopped clicking on the links and reading about them, the media would stop that level of coverage...

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      1. OneKillQuota‏ @OneKillQuota Jun 7
        Replying to @sapinker

        I think the media knows exactly what they are doing. Fear sells. And the media isn't about accurate information...they're about making money.

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