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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker May 30

    Liberal? Progressive? Socialist? Leftist? Neoliberal? What's the difference? Sean Wilentz explains, with a robust defense of liberalism against "progressivism."https://democracyjournal.org/magazine/48/fighting-words/ …

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      2. Daniel‏ @paulvarjak0 May 30
        Replying to @sapinker

        Lol, all these 'ists' and 'isms'. People are so caught up labeling themselves that the very progress fought for just keeps getting pushed to the right in this, 'my system is better than yours' waste of time. Humbly, from Afghanistan...stop wasting time and get to work together.

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      2. Jason Erb‏ @FauxCapitalist May 30
        Replying to @sapinker

        Don't forget libertarian -- the only constrained and predictable one -- the others have become too malleable toward whatever people or politicians want them to be.

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      3. John Harrington‏ @thebeartiger May 30
        Replying to @FauxCapitalist @sapinker

        Cults are always "constrained and predictable". People who accept objective reality necessarily appear wishy-washy because their ultimate purpose isn't the defense of dogma but rather expedient solutions to problems.

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      4. Jason Erb‏ @FauxCapitalist May 30
        Replying to @thebeartiger @sapinker

        Expedient is the right word, as in selling out on principles. And I am in Canada, where Prof. Pinker was born, and here the current Liberal govt has demonstrated that amply, in breaking an ironclad promise to replace our current voting system and now nationalized a pipeline.

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      5. Jason Erb‏ @FauxCapitalist May 30
        Replying to @FauxCapitalist @thebeartiger @sapinker

        Fortunately, more Canadians, particularly younger, have seen through this govt, in particular, which has been challenging, because the Prime Minister has operated under completely false pretenses of being some committed "progressive" and a man of the people.

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      6. Jason Erb‏ @FauxCapitalist May 30
        Replying to @FauxCapitalist @thebeartiger @sapinker

        Jordan Peterson has done a particularly good and prominent job at exposing our PM as a phony. And beyond that, you don't seem to appreciate the diversity and bounded flexibility of libertarian thought with your implicit derision of it being cult-like.

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      7. John Harrington‏ @thebeartiger May 30
        Replying to @FauxCapitalist @sapinker

        The paradoxical phrase "bounded flexibility" strikes me as the sort of thing a cult member would say. Peterson is a bigot who believes "facts are not necessarily true" and truth is true if it "serves" mankind. His argument are only persuasive if you're susceptible to sophistry.

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      1. Faisal Al Mutar‏Verified account @faisalalmutar May 31
        Replying to @sapinker

        I idenitity as capitalist when rich and socialist when poor.

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      1. James Tiberius Stone‏ @Evolving_Ego May 30
        Replying to @sapinker

        Liberal & progressive aren't exclusive, either. They're different dimensions. You can be a progressive liberal. In fact, Steven, I'm pretty sure you're a progressive-leaning liberal yourself. It's the authoritarians we have to watch out for more than prog-libs or classical-libs.

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      1. Michael Cassis‏ @triadaxiom May 30
        Replying to @sapinker

        Liberal = tolerant "Progressive" = intolerant

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      1. Jacques‏ @Garcilaso87 May 30
        Replying to @sapinker

        Oh my, yet another “but muh Hillary!" article again.

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      1. SK8Lobster‏ @sk8lobster May 30
        Replying to @sapinker @SamHarrisOrg

        I like that you and @jordanbpeterson acknowledged the rise in Libertarians in your interview. That message resonates with a lot of people. @RonPaul was my fist introduction to the concept in the early 2000’s

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      2. John Harrington‏ @thebeartiger May 30
        Replying to @sapinker

        I see a trend of sly identification as "liberal" by people who are really libertarians. "But I'm a liberal" seems to be a form of camouflage, a way to disarm the opponent, where the qualifier "classical" is conveniently "forgotten". Dave Rubin tried to make a career out of this.

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      2. John Harrington‏ @thebeartiger May 30
        Replying to @sapinker

        Attempting to separate liberalism from "identity politics" is nothing but a new spin. Liberals have always addressed the relative status of some groups, because our culture heaps special deprecation on some groups. Ignoring that is irrational. Why on earth should we?

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      1. Yoseph‏ @YosephAA May 30
        Replying to @StratocracyNow @sapinker

        Drunk college students in their early 20s, apparently.

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      2. Martin Lavin‏ @Real_SF May 30
        Replying to @sapinker

        Good stuff. One minor point, the use of populist as a pejorative is at least dysfunctional, at worst provocative. in today's news it is used to describe both the Left and the Right in Italy. Deterioration of definition. Excellent window into retro thinking though.

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      3. Andrew Frisbie‏ @AndrewFrisbie05 May 31
        Replying to @Real_SF @sapinker

        Unfortunately, that's the entire concept of this article. It's framing the center as the 'rational ones', while people calling themselves 'progressive' is just done with nefarious intent. Hence, why they quoted Bernie, as if somehow, he was being dishonest in his FDR quote.

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