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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker May 27

    Catholic Europe plateaued in liberal values in mid 1990s - perhaps we are seeing the trend renewing. Amazingly, values are liberalizing even in the world's least liberal zone, Islamic Mideast/N Africa: Attitudes are more liberal today (on average) than W Eur estimates for 1960.

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      2. ♔Theseus  🇨🇭‏ @Theseus803 May 27
        Replying to @sapinker

        Didnt know they were stoning people to death in europe during the 60s. Amazing.

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      3. Chlodulf Maximino‏ @chlodulfmaximi1 May 27
        Replying to @Theseus803 @sapinker

        Well, women didn’t get to vote in Switzerland in the 1960s

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      4. ♔Theseus  🇨🇭‏ @Theseus803 May 27
        Replying to @chlodulfmaximi1 @sapinker

        How is not having voting rights as bad getting stoned?

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      1. Javier Ramirez‏ @JGR74 May 28
        Replying to @sapinker

        ...come to regard human beings as mere cogs in the larger social wheel whose dignity and well being may legitimately be sacrificed for the sake of the collectivity.

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      1. Abraxus Canuck‏ @ABXCNK May 27
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        Hopeful trends, but hard to believe re islamic world. Pakistan, Indonesia, Afghanistan, Iran seem more fundamentalist and conservative than 50 years ago. Since Qutb, and Wahabbi expansionism, really.

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      1. Theo‏ @TigerRidge929 May 27
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        Yes, we’re hitting peak liberalism. This is why we’re seeing the destabilization of western nations and ethnic warfare in many Many Mideast/ N African countries.

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      2. Javier Ramirez‏ @JGR74 May 27
        Replying to @sapinker

        If Ireland is this renewal of liberal values then Europe is heading towards a moral Dark Ages. I see a possible Orwellain Oceania type of society.

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      3. David Drennan‏ @maxinalexd May 27
        Replying to @JGR74 @sapinker

        why do you sat that?

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      4. Javier Ramirez‏ @JGR74 May 28
        Replying to @maxinalexd @sapinker

        Why? Because any country that devalues life at the national level so loudly and proudly and are consistent with that ethic will eventually devolve into a debased society that doesn't see the individual dignity of humans but only a collective mass of facelessness.

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      1. Javier Ramirez‏ @JGR74 May 28
        Replying to @sapinker

        "A society that does not nurture respect for the human person-beginning with the child in the womb, and including the mentally and physically impaired and the frail elderly-will sooner or later (probably sooner rather than later)...

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      1. the laughter‏ @vegan_mum May 27
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        What do you make of this: “Across a wide sample of countries in North America and Western Europe, citizens of mature democracies have become markedly less satisfied with their form of government and surprisingly open to nondemocratic alternatives”?https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/article/danger-deconsolidation-democratic-disconnect …

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      2. Elijah‏ @SpauldingSmail1 May 27
        Replying to @sapinker @PrometheusAM

        The Catholic church has been captured by paganism for a veryyy long time. If people would just seek wisdom for themselves and open up bible, things might be different. In Jesus #1 teaching, key 4 life [lords prayer] he also speaks towards folly of church itself. People = Temple

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      3. Elijah‏ @SpauldingSmail1 May 27
        Replying to @SpauldingSmail1 @sapinker @PrometheusAM

        What kind of values does a " liberal " hold? Surely not biblical. So many Martin Luther King's aborted leaves the mind sickened with despair. Yet many liberals have no mirrors in said castle as the ride in the 3rd lane on materialistic highway 101

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      1. mumbogumshoe‏ @mumbogumshoe May 29
        Replying to @sapinker @charleendadams

        I don't doubt the data and my personal experience with individuals from the ME bears it out to some degree, but I wonder how support for capital/corporal punishment for apostates/blasphemers/homosexuals can fit into this. One can't imagine such policies in the West in the 60s

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      1. Javier Ramirez‏ @JGR74 May 28
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        Others-those in certain conditions of dependency, for example-will come to be regarded as intolerably burdensome,[…]as Lebensunwertes lebens(“life unworthy of life”).In their most extreme modern forms, totalitarian regimes reduce the individual to an instrument to serve the ends

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      1. Javier Ramirez‏ @JGR74 May 28
        Replying to @sapinker

        ...of the fascist state or the future communist utopia. When liberal democratic regimes go awry, it is often because a utilitarian ethic reduces the human person to a means rather than an end to which other things, […].

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