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    Steven Pinker‏Verified account @sapinker May 26

    A critical period for second language acquisition: Evidence from 2/3 million English speakers - just published in Cognition. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010027718300994?_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_origin=gateway&_docanchor=&md5=b8429449ccfc9c30159a5f9aeaa92ffb&dgcid=raven_sd_via_email …

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      2. BehavioralTerrain‏ @JohnKirbow May 26
        Replying to @sapinker

        I've taught myself around 8 languages, albeit with varying degrees of proficiency. Only "good" in 5 or so. Through all this, I've become quite fascinated with foreign language acquisition, and how to improve on it.

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      3. Eli Bienstock‏ @SheriffElias May 26
        Replying to @JohnKirbow @sapinker

        Any suggestions for Hebrew? I'm struggling on my own and would love to learn

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      4. BehavioralTerrain‏ @JohnKirbow May 26
        Replying to @SheriffElias @sapinker

        Its a very interesting language, and easier for me since I've long known Arabic. But generally speaking, its hard. Not nearly as much as Arabic though! Lemme write up / link to some tips. There's lots of good things one can do..

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      5. Eli Bienstock‏ @SheriffElias May 26
        Replying to @JohnKirbow @sapinker

        Thanks man I appreciate it! What are the other languages you know?

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      6. Eli Bienstock‏ @SheriffElias Jun 7
        Replying to @SheriffElias @JohnKirbow @sapinker

        Sup man, any updates?

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      7. BehavioralTerrain‏ @JohnKirbow Jun 7
        Replying to @SheriffElias @sapinker

        Here's an old (and kind of embarassing) video of my 4 years ago speaking 6 or 7 languages (some better than others) to my laptop camera. My Russian was quite lapsed back thenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ayHI6aoFp8 …

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      8. Eli Bienstock‏ @SheriffElias Jun 7
        Replying to @JohnKirbow @sapinker

        That's not embarrassing at all! Or maybe it is and I didn't understand a word you said.

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      9. BehavioralTerrain‏ @JohnKirbow Jun 7
        Replying to @SheriffElias @sapinker

        Just minor errors I see in hindsight. But stuff thats obvious to me now..I was self-taught mostly in Russian in my youth and became lapsed in the details for a good while..

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      1. titginson‏ @taiticusmaximus May 26
        Replying to @sapinker

        The abstract cites 17.4 years as "the crux of adulthood." I am curious why legal adulthood is equated with cognitive adulthood, and if the two are even the same.

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      1. Paula Barberis‏ @PauBarb May 27
        Replying to @sapinker

        A valid question that needs to be asked is: does competence in a second language open later opportunities for third and fourth languages? That is, I think second languages reside in a place in the brain where other languages will "live" as they are added.

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      1. Daniel Luke‏ @intranaut May 26
        Replying to @sapinker

        So at what point does it become nearly impossible for most people?

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      1. Joe 비타‏ @joeseoul May 30
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        The article only focuses on syntactic acquisition yes?

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      1. Adam Cooper‏ @MrACooper81 May 27
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      1. clifford griffiths‏ @cliffordgriffi8 May 26
        Replying to @sapinker

        Would be interesting to see research on phonological acquisition. I suspect the ability to acquire native competence declines at a much earlier age.

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      2. Archimedes‏ @ArchimedesCovfe May 26
        Replying to @sapinker

        A potential analogous study with available data and interesting language acquisition overlap: can compare when chess players started learning chess seriously and their FIDE ranking. I found it odd that ebonics was in your dataset.

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      3. Archimedes‏ @ArchimedesCovfe May 26
        Replying to @ArchimedesCovfe @sapinker

        And of course, there is a glaring inference validity question that arises from the homogeneity of participants' learning style who eat the digital bait, and cultural complexity of acquisition that goes beyond immersion and non-immersion.

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      1. Christopher Phelps‏ @MindMaker137 May 26
        Replying to @sapinker

        Critical? Haha as in important or a finite type of make or break? What if we ask about the point a second language is affluent as a first? Could it be an equavlence duration of drug independency to balance out time frame of dependency, to then start operating at bar so to speak?

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