MSFT has cleaned up their act a bit, but society is going to be much worse off with a tech hegemony of a very few companies
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Yep, but you imply that this is a future problem, whereas it’s actually a problem now. It’s been a problem for years. Got any ideas for an alternative? Personally, I’d like to see some of this stuff nationalised, but then again I’m a socialist...
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Well, I like to be a good capitalist but I think it will take gov’t anti-trust action to properly protect society.
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I tend to agree, but history has shown that to be toothless in the US with decisions repeatedly watered down. Time will tell if the EU does any better (the active cases against Google will be an interesting indicator of political will).
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GDPR is totally the wrong hammer, but I do like the fact the EU is taking a harder line with the giants. It's still an unpopular opinion but I think as these companies become more ubiquitous the public will push for anti-trust action.
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I think GDPR is a good step in the right direction, and although it has some flaws things like right to be forgotten and mandatory data breach reporting notices are needed more widely. The EU in some ways is freer to act on this stuff - I don’t hold out much hope for the US
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I'm hoping Microsoft will make Atom as clean and usable as VS Code.
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I don’t think they will - suspect they’ll try and get people to use Code instead. They already share the core (Electron underpins both). Atom has a big enough community that I suspect it will continue even if MS divert resources.
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that doesnt change the way they ruin every company they buy. Just from Germany we had: Hockeyapp or Wunderlist. They buy startups to be startup but then ruin them, people leave, innovation stagnates, empty shells remain
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Startups change when acquired by big companies. Google’s track record is just as bad. Hate the game, not the player.
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i hate the result! The culture of Github does not fit even the new MS. Can you imagine a MS lawyer give up on email and communicate via pull request?
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Some of their teams have been operating on Github for a while already. TFS build agents and msbuild come to mind. It’d be foolish to think Google and Facebook’s legal dept is any less rabid, but Angular and React have been pretty huge
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Having repos on Github is completely different than owning it and changing the way it works internally! Github worked completely on Github internally. Those times will probably be over. Back to Outlook and Lync instead of pull requests and Slack.
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It's not necessarily about Microsoft today (I agree, the place seems pretty great), it's about the future. For example, who would predict that "don't be evil" google would be what it is today?
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We can also turn that around. Who would have predicted the Microsoft of yesterday would become the Microsoft of today!
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Because we are outside the (company) bubble. Looking out from within is so much harder than looking at it. It's a joined effort, but most of us (including companies) want the most sustainable way forward. Sometimes that way needs to be found together. They are another us.
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Some examples please?
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Linux subsystem on Windows, Visual Studio Code and Typescript.
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I'd say Linux was more of a business decision rather than part of "for developers" movement (coz they were losing sales on devs), and Typescript was waiting to happen. Don't take me wrong please, not trying to prove you wrong - just saying business motivations trump other stuff.
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Also first platform to host kubernetes publicly. Supporting Node back in 2012 in Azure. I don’t question that they want to make money, but the question is how - they’ve got a track record over the last few years of trying to do that by focusing on dev experience
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"Typescript was waiting to happen" really isn't a counterpoint.
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Could have just as easily ceded that realm to CoffeeScript, it does much the same thing
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What, Coffee Script is the same as Typescript? I am and never will be a JavaScript developer but even I know that's totally wrong.
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They both add type systems and compilers...? Am I missing something?
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