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    Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
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    I want to talk a little bit about the dangers of privilege and lack of empathy when it comes to increasingly popular "digital free" experiences, though the lens of my time in a @samsmithsbeer pub yesterday. [Thread]pic.twitter.com/52gmzo0PCo

    A beer mat from the pub, with a headline "Let's just talk!" and a description stating a ban on devices
    04:27 - 5. sij 2020.
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      2. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
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        Every year, around 20 of my friends gather over the new year. For the last 5 years, we've returned to a particular pub which has a large enough area for us all to sit, talk, and play the board games we bring. We spend all afternoon together.

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      3. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
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        We're all "internet friends" who first met online in 1999/2000, and our annual gathering is an opportunity for people across the country to get together in person. Not everyone can always make it, but we try to share back photos with others online.

        34 proslijeđena tweeta 1.331 korisnik označava da mu se sviđa
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      4. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
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        Yesterday we gathered in our usual place, which happens to be a @samsmithsbeer pub. Except this year there was a difference: numerous signs have gone up around the pub declaring it to be a "mobile, laptop, and tablet-free zone".pic.twitter.com/KpA6hNCNbT

        Above a bar, a white sign displays crossed out iconography of devices, stating "Mobile, tablet, & laptop free zone"
        9 replies 38 proslijeđenih tweetova 1.017 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      5. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
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        We spent our afternoon as usual, chatting away, catching up, and playing some games as a group. All excellent fun, and in line with the pub's declaration of wanting "our traditional pub to be a haven for social conversation".

        24 proslijeđena tweeta 1.014 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      6. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
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        At a few points though, some of us used our devices as a conversation enhancement, finding information, illustrating points, taking photos to record. Several times the staff came over to tell us to stop using devices, which we did, until I asked for more information on the policy

        6 replies 40 proslijeđenih tweetova 1.326 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      7. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
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        The policy, at least in this pub is black and white. If you want to use devices, don't come in. No kinds of usage are allowed, "there are no grey areas, it's black and white". The staff member then started to talk about the evils of digital addiction.

        13 replies 49 proslijeđenih tweetova 1.141 korisnik označava da mu se sviđa
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      8. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
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        That social media builds in dopamine hits, I agreed with. But we were confused. We asked how our afternoon of socialising was made any the worse by occasionally bringing out devices, and why they were chastising us? The answer: "it's on the door, you don't have to come in".

        8 replies 39 proslijeđenih tweetova 1.184 korisnika označavaju da im se sviđa
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      9. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
        • Prijavi Tweet

        Fair enough, most of our usage wasn't _needed_. But what about situations where a device is genuinely essential for someone? Helping to independently read a menu if visually impaired? Quickly reading and writing to communicate if hearing is difficult?

        17 replies 164 proslijeđena tweeta 2.176 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      10. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
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        Insulin pump apps? Autistic or extremely anxious people who use their devices to recentre? Alcoholics who want to glance at an affirmation? Those needing help with English? There are myriad reasons why a device may be incredibly important to someone.

        211 proslijeđenih tweetova 3.211 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      11. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
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        Having a policy to encourage conversation is one thing. Actively policing it it another. This act can cause people to feel they have to share private reasons for why they're doing what they are. But even if they do, the answer was consistent: "I don't care. Don't come in"

        117 proslijeđenih tweetova 2.159 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      12. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
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        The worst example given in this instance was almost boastfully shared. The staff member we spoke to told us that he'd had a man constantly checking his phone because his son was in hospital. The same level of empathy was applied: "You can't use your phone. Leave"

        10 replies 213 proslijeđenih tweetova 2.257 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      13. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
        • Prijavi Tweet

        At this point we attempted to clarify, and asked whether they would put a sign saying "no disabled people"? Swift denials. But if you're disabled and rely on technology, needing to use a device during your visit? "Don't come in, it's on the door"

        222 proslijeđena tweeta 2.121 korisnik označava da mu se sviđa
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      14. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
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        It wasn't just one person either. All members of staff we interacted with were hard line on it. Why? "If Mr Smith finds out, we'll lose our jobs". The staff are working in fear: if they want to stay working there, they need to police a zero tolerance policy.

        10 replies 125 proslijeđenih tweetova 1.772 korisnika označavaju da im se sviđa
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      15. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
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        By introducing a policy like this, Sam Smiths have projected a world view of devices being addictive conversation killers that must be excluded. This is an _extremely_ privileged view of technology, and the amount of discriminatory views on display were hugely concerning.

        10 replies 250 proslijeđenih tweetova 3.106 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      16. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
        • Prijavi Tweet

        Worrying, they're not alone. We're seeing an ever increasing set of "no device" policies under the banner of "be present, enjoy the moment!". These require people with legitimate reasons to have to attempt to negotiate with personal information they may not wish to disclose.

        11 replies 136 proslijeđenih tweetova 1.733 korisnika označavaju da im se sviđa
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      17. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
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        Build diverse teams. Consult with experts. Acknowledge your position of privilege, and how it shapes your view of the world. Have empathy, don't double down on black and white, and be prepared to listen and change.

        1 reply 138 proslijeđenih tweetova 1.925 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      18. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
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        And FFS I can't believe it needs to be said, but don't openly discriminate against people(!), or attempt to dehumanise anyone by removing assistance that supports their life, just because it's packaged in a digital device. Your experience of technology is not the same as others'

        14 replies 280 proslijeđenih tweetova 2.952 korisnika označavaju da im se sviđa
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      19. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 5. sij
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        "The sign's outside. Don't come in" We won't be back. From what I've since read of @samsmithsbeer they won't change. But I hope that this thread can act as a prompt to others who are thinking about projecting their view of what is and isn't important when it comes to devices.

        190 replies 227 proslijeđenih tweetova 3.728 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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      20. Sally Lait‏ @sallylait 6. sij
        • Prijavi Tweet

        Just dropping back in here quickly to say I'm glad the main message of inclusivity resonated with so many of you 💙 I've really enjoyed reading your stories about what technology means to you but have had to mute the flood for a bit, so sorry if I don't reply!

        10 replies 2 proslijeđena tweeta 256 korisnika označava da im se sviđa
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