huh, I don't remember finding *any* of the LW sequences useful new conceptual info when I first read them. I got HUGE personal growth out of meeting the community but that was because it was my first experience with counterculture.
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if you take a smart person, age 20, and then try introducing her to people who say "hm, have you tried...loosening up and being more confident? try it, it's fun, we're doing it and we haven't been struck by any lightning bolts yet!" the results are pretty dramatic.
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @meditationstuff and
(I'm skeptical of the project "introduce fanfic readers to memes about Thinking and Saving The World" but super bullish on "introduce STEM nerds to each other and to hippie culture or SF-fandom culture")
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @meditationstuff and
(in particular, "take people who have already demonstrated they can Do Hard Things and get them to hang out together and stop anxiously limiting themselves" is feasible & powerful, while "make ordinary people into competent people" is still an unsolved problem)
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @meditationstuff and
I think there was an original goal of "get otherwise smart/competent people who have a mental block around AI such that they make absurd claims, to think more clearly around that issue" but I think that attempt was based on a misunderstanding of human psychology
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @meditationstuff and
smart people don't make obviously incoherent claims about AI because they lack a good enough theory of how thinking works.
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my best guess as to why CS professors say obviously absurd things about AI is that it's basically marketing for where they want to stand in the zeitgeist and they aren't *actually reflecting about how AI would work in real life* at all.
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @meditationstuff and
and my best guess for "how to get people to think literally instead of performatively about an issue" is that it's going to look more like therapy than education.
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afaik, "how can you get people to use less motivated cognition?" and "how can you get people to be more sincere?" are both totally unanswered questions & no progress has been made on them.
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @meditationstuff and
But "how can I get myself to use less motivated cognition / be more sincere" has a ton of answers and progress? Or do you mean including people who are already interested in doing that?
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wait really? anything that isn't really confounded? (I mostly don't believe "I tried this and it worked" for stuff like this)
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Seems to me that a substantial chunk of dealing with motivated cognition is going to involve working with emotional schemas, a la UtEB:https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/i9xyZBS3qzA8nFXNQ/book-summary-unlocking-the-emotional-brain …
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Malcolm 🌎cean Retweeted Malcolm 🌎cean
And in particular, working with the kinds of schemas described in Already Free as being a source of existential annihilatory panic. What is the "motivation" in "motivated cognition" fundamentally about?https://twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1217268729693851655 …
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Malcolm 🌎cean @Malcolm_OceanReplying to @SarahAMcManus @QiaochuYuanWow!@fortelabs' "because I'll die" response in particular resonates very precisely with a section I just read this morning from Already Free by Bruce Tift. Really cool book—connecting therapy & dharma! Excerpt below: "If I have to feel this feeling, I will cease to exist." pic.twitter.com/ekizoopJDe1 reply 0 retweets 1 like - 5 more replies
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