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    1. Lucy Keer‏ @drossbucket May 5
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      I'm some combination of another '+1 would read this post' and 'oh god I wasted so much time trying to understand what LW meant by that 3 years ago and never want to think about it again, but would still read this post' :)

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    2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness May 5
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      Replying to @drossbucket @utotranslucence and

      Our intermittent emails about it have been very helpful or very unhelpful depending partly on whether I ever finish it

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    3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness May 5
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      Current framing: the representation/reality relationship is the CENTRAL and unsolvable problem for rationalism. Maps are highly atypical representations: the relationship is much simpler than most.

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    4. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness May 5
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      Replying to @Meaningness @drossbucket and

      LW uses “map” instead of “representation” in order make it seem like the relationship is straightforward *in general*. That hides the central problem on which the whole story founders.

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    5. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness May 5
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      Replying to @Meaningness @drossbucket and

      I think this is semi-deliberate: they found that thinking in terms of “maps” instead of “representations” clarified their thinking considerably, so they went with it. Indeed, it does make the story much more precise & tractable, at the cost of making it much more wrong.

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    6. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness May 5
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      Replying to @Meaningness @drossbucket and

      The essay undermines this by pointing out the even literal maps don’t work anything like the way LW uses the word. There’s tons of nebulosity in there, not just uncertainty or imprecision. (But less nebulosity than with most representations)

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    7. Jake Orthwein‏ @JakeOrthwein May 5
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      Replying to @Meaningness @drossbucket and

      Maybe this idea about “entanglement” and “mutual information” could focus the criticism a bit? This seems to underpin Yudkowsky’s general conception of representation.pic.twitter.com/i0uqS3McCh

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    8. Lucy Keer‏ @drossbucket May 6
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      Replying to @JakeOrthwein @Meaningness and

      I only vaguely know this particular post, but 3 years ago I got the idea that EY had a coherent story on representation and I just had to work out what it was. so god help me I ended up reading a pile of sequences posts, Arbital pages and ancient pdfs...

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    9. Lucy Keer‏ @drossbucket May 6
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      Replying to @drossbucket @JakeOrthwein and

      ... I was motivated by the fact that sometimes (as in your screenshot) he shows an understanding that representation should ground out in interaction somewhere. But exactly how he wants that to work is hugely contradictory across his writing, and sometime flat out absent...

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    10. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin May 6
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      Replying to @drossbucket @JakeOrthwein and

      this is interesting, but does one need to have an account of how exactly representation works in order to say "the map is not the territory" (i.e. particular representations can fail to be useful or accurate)?

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      Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin May 6
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      Replying to @s_r_constantin @drossbucket and

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map%E2%80%93territory_relation#%22A_map_is_not_the_territory%22 … says the phrase "the map is not the territory" is due to Korzybski, paraphrasing E.T. Bell.

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        2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness May 6
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          I’ve read the Korzybski thing as part of the background work for this. Worth going back to the source to see [which is not always true]. It’s super lame. It’s not only simplistic, it’s also cringily crankish. [How do you spell “cringeyly”??]

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        3. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin May 6
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          Replying to @Meaningness @drossbucket and

          oh! i've been wondering if Korzybski had a secret method for how to think real good. might still read him but good to know you've checked it out.

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