but the nationalists' concerns are that too many people went "wheee! $$$" and didn't pay enough attention to second-order effects on other Americans and on discourse norms. (If you're too heavily invested in China, you can't break with the CCP party line.)
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @ben_r_hoffman and
the canonical "classical liberal" thing to do is to have a set of principles, and then jump at opportunities that don't violate your principles, and stop when they do.
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @ben_r_hoffman and
this, however, places some limits on growth if your principles aren't widely shared. eg if the CEO of a company wants to challenge China even though that'll lose money, he'd better actually have enough control over the board, or have a board that understands his choice.
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @ben_r_hoffman and
if there's a critical mass of $$$ in the hands of "squishy" people who literally don't have *any* principles or even specific preferences, growth will go to the squishiest...until the "squishiness" crashes against an actual bad consequence.
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @ben_r_hoffman and
mostly you see critique of "woke capitalism" from people who have different values than mine (they *actually* don't approve of money or homosexuality or feel-good pop media or w/e) so it's difficult for me to relate to.
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @ben_r_hoffman and
and, like, I think convenience and pleasure *are* values, it is nice to have nice things, nothing else makes sense if you reject that at a radical level (rather than just instrumentally accepting that some conveniences/pleasures have bad consequences).
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @ben_r_hoffman and
but what I *can* identify with is the fear that there's this "squishy" population that doesn't have boundaries it won't cross at *all*, and treats you like a pariah if you ever go "hey but I don't like that" to the thing that is currently the most Winning.
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @ben_r_hoffman and
(socially Winning, I mean.) That's mob rule. Even if the "mob" is mostly elite. Normal humans have *some* things they wouldn't want to do even if those things were prestigious. So you get populists going "guys, there are these people who are literally only tracking prestige"
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @ben_r_hoffman and
and of course most of the populists have their boundaries in a different place than mine are, so they're gonna accuse elites of doing things I don't actually think are bad.
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @ben_r_hoffman and
but "hey you're talking about anti-Chinese racism but not Chinese racism because you have a vested interest in sucking up to the CCP" is kind of fair, actually
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In isolation, any one person can report on US anti-Chinese prejudice without having to give equal time to Chinese anti-black prejudice. In aggregate, if the balance is too skewed, and in the context of a celebrity/media culture that censors talk about Hong Kong etc, you worry.
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