On what you can’t say. (A thread!)
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Replying to @SimonDeDeo
I think I disagree that “what you can’t say” is a *problem* for everyone, at least in that form. I more often struggle with the problem of influence and imitation. What you don’t see in your social contexts, you find yourself not thinking. And I worry about that.
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @SimonDeDeo
The boundaries of what counts as “a thing”, a nameable thing, enough to consciously notice it. Perceptions often don’t rise to the level of being “things” for me if they don’t seem socially legitimate enough, though I’ve put some effort into countering that.
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @SimonDeDeo
But the case of “you know a thing, consciously, but you can’t say it” — it seems like sometimes an inconvenience but not a tragedy. How bad it is depends on the situation, right? Sometimes you get killed, sometimes you lose friends and funding, sometimes you get lonely...
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @SimonDeDeo
But these seem like costs, not tragedies. Not every bad thing that happens is a tragedy. Not even every bad thing that *inevitably* happens is a tragedy; some seem more like “the reality we must accept.” (Eg entropy; I don’t think the mature perspective sees it as tragic.)
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @SimonDeDeo
This is really bizarre to read in the context of that thread. “Tragedy” has a rich and specific meaning here that isn’t the conventional “thing that is really horrible and sad”.
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Like, spend some time here, especially under “Theories”: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy
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Replying to @kaburicrab @SimonDeDeo
I may not be a scholar but I have read the Poetics. I think I do get this?
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @SimonDeDeo
It’s not just classical theories of tragedy in play here. The psychoanalytic tradition had a lot of fun with it, which is the immediate context of this thread. I can’t pinpoint your confusion exactly, just trying to add context. Sorry if I’m being too terse.
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Ok, not familiar with what psychoanalysis says about tragedy.
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