Yes, I think bullshit jobs are real, disputes should be about how preavelent they are; however it may be fun to break it down; how many of those are financebros that are in just for the money vs lower income workers?
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Replying to @ArtirKel @robinhanson and
I’d expect most of that 8% to be at least above median income? Most jobs with lower average salaries than that obviously provide a concrete service to someone. (Cleaning, preparing and serving food, selling things in stores, etc.)
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @robinhanson and
Maybe; idk if the paper goes into it, my notes frm back then don't say https://nintil.com/links-18/
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Replying to @ArtirKel @robinhanson and
I don’t have access, can you check?
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @robinhanson and
It's SSRN, everyone should have access (?)
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Replying to @ArtirKel @robinhanson and
" Indeed, among the top-20 occupations with the highest share of workers reporting a socially useless job, we find “sales, marketing, and public relations professionals,” “finance managers,” and “sales and purchasing agents and brokers”
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @ArtirKel and
The most self-rated useless jobs include both managerial jobs (HR professionals, sales/marketing/PR, finance, accounting), but also low-paid labor (customer service, cleaning, machine operating, food preparation). And economists!
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @ArtirKel and
The least self-rated useless jobs include firefighters, librarians, nurses, police, religious professionals, teachers, social workers, and doctors.
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @ArtirKel and
People with jobs in the public sector were significantly less likely to think their work was useless than people in the private sector.
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @ArtirKel and
Age matters: the older you are, the less likely you are to think your job is useless.
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There is no significant association between having a managerial job and thinking your job is useless.
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @ArtirKel and
IMO, self-rated usefulness seems to more track whether your job effectively inculcates an ethic of idealistic service than whether your job does good.
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Replying to @s_r_constantin @ArtirKel and
By-country ratings don't seem to track any obvious variable; no GDP trend, and no clusters by region (like "Nordic", "East-Asian", "Ex-USSR"). The most "useless" countries are Poland, Japan, and Israel, which doesn't fit my intuitions of uselessness at all.
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