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    1. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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      "We evolved for static culture" is too close for comfort to "Go back where you came from"...like, I think in order to talk about this claim in good faith I think I have to be explicit about the blob of antisemitism that in practice surrounds it? meh. hard to express cleanly.

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    2. Malcolm  🌎cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean Feb 4
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      Oh huh. Yeah, that's a very different direction than all of what I'm thinking here. I'm also wanting to double-check we're even meaning the same thing by "static culture". I was assuming by your reference to CritRat that you'd read David Deutsch's work.

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    3. Malcolm  🌎cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean Feb 4
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      I see any "going back" as both impossible and undesirable. Dynamic culture will be differently functional with our existing neurology, by not installing everyone with a guilt-button etc during childhood in the first place, and using generative communication/motivation instead.

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    4. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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      So far I'm with you!

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    5. Malcolm  🌎cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean Feb 4
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      So the current dysfunctional state, that your thread is about, is something we're able to talk about because we have enough space from the static culture to be able to look at it, but we're still very much emotionally affected by it and all current dynamism is in *spite* of that.

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    6. Malcolm  🌎cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean Feb 4
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      Would recommend reading at least this summary if not a few whole chapters of Unlocking the Emotional Brain, which provides some of the scaffold for how the emotional brain works, and you can sorta read between the lines to see how it currently gets stuck.https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/i9xyZBS3qzA8nFXNQ/book-summary-unlocking-the-emotional-brain …

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    7. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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      I'm a little hesitant about "emotional learning" being a separate thing from "learning." I don't know what an "emotion" is, apart from the Tooby/Cosmides thing of "a set of behaviors & physiological states that all go together, such that you toggle between one set and another"

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    8. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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      But I don't get how that goes with the idea that "sometimes, you have this thing called 'emotional learning', that makes a belief SUPER sticky and general and resistant to change" when that's not "because you have a ton of data for the belief". When and why would you be sticky?

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    9. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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      "In particular, most of the studies so far have been carried out on rats, and specifically testing the elimination of a fear response to electric shocks"...red flag. How can an experiment showing a fear response can be extinguished give you a *model*?

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    10. Ben Hoffman‏ @ben_r_hoffman Feb 4
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      It seems straightforward that behavioral learning and propositional learning are different, with emotions as a kind of complex behavior.

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      Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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      But my whole tweetstorm was about behavior, not propositions, or rather was sort of trying to get at how you can connect propositions *to* behavior.

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