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    1. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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      This is why people can sometimes see criticism/feedback as an attack. Literally *all* criticism, if untranslated, is a commandment to do the literally impossible.

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    2. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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      But why would you ever fail to translate feedback? Most people, if they ask you to take out the garbage, don’t mean to say “do it literally instantaneously in a physically impossible fashion.” So why get defensive as *if* they meant that?

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    3. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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      One hypothesis: we have bad memories of people who expected obedience faster than we literally could obey at the time, or of demands that were literally impossible to fulfill even *after* simulating them.

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    4. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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      I usually use religious commandments as what feel like clear cut examples of instructions that are definitely impossible to obey and yet intended to be obeyed; but other people claim that’s not true, so I’m not sure.

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    5. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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      I’m very confident that the Talmud (which i’m trying to learn cover to cover) describes behaviors as admirable which would be impossible or unwise to attempt (like sleeping 0 hours per night)

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    6. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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      Anyhow, I’m inclined to believe that there are, or have been, *any* people who demand the impossible, and actually meant that, not something more reasonable.

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    7. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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      But okay, if there *are* people who ask the impossible or unreasonable, why should that cause suffering? Why not just reject all impossible demands?

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    8. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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      To explain this, I have to posit some inherent limitation in what thoughts are possible, and that makes my model more complicated & so less credible, for occam’s razor reasons. Hmm. I’m stuck.

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    9. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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      “Some people demand the impossible” should lead to the update “demanding the impossible is a thing people sometimes do”, but I don’t see why it overcorrects to “all feedback should be interpreted as a demand to do the impossible.”

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    10. Malcolm  🌎cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean Feb 4
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      The emotional brain is timeless; it doesn't overtly have the declarative belief "all X means Y", it just responds to X as if it's like situation Y, without recognizing that the emotional brain isn't really taking in the present situation.https://twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1209195568146325504 …

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      My latest frame for this: everyone is basically living in a dream mashup of their current external situation and their old emotional meanings. Like dreaming you're at school but it's also on a boat somehow. & as in dreams, somehow the weirdness of this mashup goes unnoticed
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      We *observe* that this is how the emotional brain seems to work. But why would it work that way? Why would a general machine for processing information acquire this failure mode? "Evolution is a blunt instrument" maybe?

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        2. Malcolm  🌎cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean Feb 4
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          Not sure, but it seems to me that a brain that works that way is fairly appropriate for a relatively static context, including both: • static environmental threats (predator animals / enemy humans) • static culture (in Deutschian sense & more generally)

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        3. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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          Hm. when people say things like that, I have kind of a threat response. (I know you don't mean anything bad by it, just reflecting here.)

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        2. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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          But I'm also interested in trying to come at this from the other angle: "If we assume we have an agent trying to get what it wants, with noisy information and bounded computation but otherwise no hard-coded flaws, how would or could this failure mode emerge?"

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        3. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Feb 4
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          If the answer is "EVERY agent (meeting certain requirements) will necessarily have this failure mode under these circumstances", that a.) makes it more likely that we're correct that this is actually how the emotional brain works, and b.) gives us more info about how to hack it.

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        2. Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay Feb 4
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          If upon detecting a familiar situation, you reinstate a previous mental state, you can retrieve cached responses to that situation and react more quickly; and intense emotion tends to signal a need to act quickly. https://www.cell.com/trends/cognitive-sciences/fulltext/S1364-6613(19)30061-0 …pic.twitter.com/qy5rBseu0f

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        3. Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay Feb 4
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          Slightly more speculatively, to the extent that emotional intensity codes for life or death in some sense, having survived it suggests that you responded appropriately. Thus inflexible response patterns to trauma - reliving and re-enacting the same response that worked before.

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