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    Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Jan 20
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    Almost always, when a 20-year-old and a 60-year-old work together, the 60-year-old is in a position of authority over the 20-year-old. Maybe this should be reversed sometimes?https://twitter.com/s_r_constantin/status/1217221033515634689 …

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    Achieving long-term goals is of course a matter of building a long-term, far-mode aspiration out of near-mode, concrete building blocks. If this is connected to age, maybe it's important to have more collaborations between older and younger adults.
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      2. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Jan 20
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        In our current world, young people (<40) who especially want autonomy and dislike subordinate positions gravitate to lives surrounded exclusively by other young people, and that's probably not healthy.

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      3. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin Jan 20
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        It just occurred to me that I had assumed that "more intergenerational collaborations" necessarily meant "more young people being subordinate to old people", and that feels aversive to me. But *do* those collaborations always have to be unequal? Not sure.

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      2. Steven Gussman‏ @schwinn3 Jan 20
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        That should meritocratic, and should be expected to statistically skew the other way. I don't get the fantasies about controlling or changing these kinds of arrangements.

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        Why? There are a *lot* of things that I could learn from older people’s life experience, but *only* in the absence of a parent-child or teacher-disciple dynamic where they’re evaluating me. Filial piety is a useful learning tool but it’s only one path in learning-space.

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      2. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen Jan 20
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        When I was in my late 20s I spent time trying to understand why some older physicists seem to get less creative, & others do not. The main signal I could see was whether or not the older physicists took care to find mentors decades younger than themselveshttps://twitter.com/michael_nielsen/status/992938452890013697 …

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        Related: https://twitter.com/michael_nielsen/status/992938086307778560 … A good way to avoid this, IMO, is to seek younger mentors. I know people pushing 80 who are still doing great creative work - but they have many mentors in their 20s and 30s.
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      3. Ash Jogalekar‏ @curiouswavefn Jan 20
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        A wonderful example of an equal collaboration was when old Francis Crick got together with young Christof Koch to begin a second career in neuroscience. Similarly, the 70-year-old Hans Bethe got together with Gerald Brown to begin his second career in astrophysics.

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      2. alice maz‏ @alicemazzy Jan 20
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        it doesn't reverse the dynamic but this is an interesting lens to look at intergenerational training/mentor relationships like guild/craft apprenticeship, paideia, knight/squire etc

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      3. alice maz‏ @alicemazzy Jan 20
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        in that the object is not a task (subject to the bias in your thread of the old toward the short term) but the cultivation of the younger, ideally recreating a long view if the older believes this allows their work to carry on beyond their life

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      2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Jan 20
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        It already happens, but usually implies that the 20 year old has far superior leadership or cognitive skills to the 60 year old, or is in some kind of inherited power position. I think most 60 year olds should be able to dominate their 20 year old self effortlessly.

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      3. Basil Marte‏ @BasilMarte Jan 21
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        The 60 year old self is "cheating" by having some memories of having been the 20 year old self.

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