Not long ago, "murderers and child rapists should have to live with what they've done" was considered a perfectly reasonable defense of an abolitionist position on the death penalty. It's interesting to notice the new pushback against "maximum punishment" for even the worst crime https://twitter.com/Vanessa_ABee/status/1218019316454563840 …
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Ancient punishments that I know of included fines, banishment, corporal punishment, and execution. These all seem more humane than prison!
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I agree that there's a weird woke thing where some people can't ever admit that violent criminals did a bad thing and insist on changing the subject to the problems with Society.
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