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“But even this would be an important discovery – the discovery that huge swaths of what we consider most essential about language can be done “non-linguistically...”
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“It would imply that there are language-like behaviors out there in logical space which aren’t language and which are nonetheless so much like it, non-trivially, beautifully, spine-chillingly like it.”
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I think this is in fact what’s going on. GPT2 can say things that don’t make sense with a fluent prose style; therefore it is possible to have style and make no sense.
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In fact you can have note-perfect, sophisticated, convincing style without coming one inch closer to making sense.
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Style and sense may just be two disjoint capacities. If I’m speculating I tend to think the “cortical algorithm” is for style, and sense is extrapolated from something striatal or related to motor/kinaesthetic learning.
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Personally it’s frustrating because I have awesome style and just enough sense to keep up, and most of the people I know are sorta “sense-supremacists” who think that skill profile is a hallmark of bad people.
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A lot of people just don’t believe in their hearts that different skills are a thing, that you can be good at one thing and bad at another. And people especially don’t like the notion that you can be better at the stylistic part of writing than the “making sense” part.
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Are there people who are litterally equally skilled at everything? Or do they take their own skill profile as an exception? Or are skills split into groups and all foo people are (or should be) good at foo people skills? (not to derail sense vs style)
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See: “you’re so smart! why can’t you just x” as a thing learning-disabled, ADHD, autistic, etc people hear all the time. Certain mixes of high & low ability are reliably read as “faking.”
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Penelope Trunk has a popular blog and at one time was a successful entrepreneur. She also claims to have difficulty telling left from right and reading analog clocks. People think she must be faking because the stuff she claims she can’t do is “easy” compared to her career.
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Ooooh, I think of that as people thinking that skills they have internalized and find easy to do are just obviously easy, sort of a skill version of inferencial distance blindness. Forgetting those are individual skills at all is... such a human brain thing to do really. huh.
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