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    1. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 15 Dec 2019
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      “Judgmentalness” feels scary to some people because a part of our mind isn’t good at the use-mention distinction — “Alice says ‘you are bad’” and “You are bad” don’t feel different.

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    2. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 15 Dec 2019
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      This is associational thinking. “If two things are associated, they’re basically the same, right?” It runs on clustering, not grammar; it can’t ask “in what *sense* are these things related?”

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    3. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 15 Dec 2019
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      To cluster-mind, words are magic. Enactive. To say a thing is to make it real. Going meta and thinking *about* the words is impossible. So of course criticism hurts if you’re stuck in this mode.

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    4. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 15 Dec 2019
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      This is related to the frame of mind where “okay”, “allowed”, “acceptable”, are felt to be primary objects in the world, not reducible to predictions like “these people will treat me this way in this context.”

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    5. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 15 Dec 2019
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      That’s a very scary headspace to be in; trying to describe it makes it sound like it’s a very severe mental illness; but it’s actually common among so-called “healthy” people. Heidegger got this.

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    6. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 15 Dec 2019
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      You actually feel like social opinions are ontological primaries, and things like atoms, tables, or even sense perceptions are abstractions *over* social judgments. It’s as spooky as it sounds.

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    7. Arthur Brrrrr  🌮‏ @ArthurB 16 Dec 2019
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      I think you may be confusing the fallacy of reification with whether or not moral labels are ontological primaries themselves. It's consistent to treat "being a good person" as an ontological primary and think people can hold mistaken beliefs about who is and who isn't good.

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    8. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 16 Dec 2019
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      I don’t understand, I don’t think I disagreed with your last sentence anywhere.

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    9. Arthur Brrrrr  🌮‏ @ArthurB 16 Dec 2019
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      I sense ambiguity, as if you were arguing that the alternative is between a pure positive account of virtue and allowing the opinion of others to define those traits.

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    10. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 16 Dec 2019
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      Oh ok. Technically you can believe there are “atoms of goodness” out there in the world but not believe those depend on social opinion. Eg a theist may think God’s will is objective even if everyone is wrong about it.

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      Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 16 Dec 2019
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      I additionally think that people originally get ideas about these “atoms of goodness” *from* social opinions; I think gods were originally modeled off of people, etc. you’re right, that’s a separate claim, not a logical entailment.

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        2. Arthur Brrrrr  🌮‏ @ArthurB 16 Dec 2019
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          Even if atoms of goodness are culturally or socially defined, that still allows for very wide departure between what someone might think and what the social consensus would determine given full information, self-reflection, etc.

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        3. Arthur Brrrrr  🌮‏ @ArthurB 16 Dec 2019
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          You can be a moral subjectivist and pretty much a moral absolutist at the same time. That's my position FWIW.

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