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    Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 3 Dec 2019
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    When you use the word “ideology”, do you mean a.) “a consistent, though possibly wrong, guiding set of values and principles that form a coherent worldview” or b.) “a grab bag of group affiliation markers that are definitionally *not* coherent”?

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      1. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 3 Dec 2019
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        I’ve been told I’m using the word wrong if I use it with definition a.) and that the word “ideology” inherently *means* “unprincipled, inconsistent grab bag”, that for instance Marxists would not call Marxism an ideology. Have any of you heard this usage?

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      2. Corn Woman  🌽‏ @WomanCorn 3 Dec 2019
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        This is very hard, because the real answer is I motte/bailey between a and b in an unprincipled way.

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      3. Grant‏ @GrantHendley 3 Dec 2019
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        Same

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      1. Gregory Merchán‏ @quodvideo 3 Dec 2019
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        Consistency is hard to find, but a grab bag is too random.

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      1. hikikomorphism 🏳️‍🌈 🏝 🛰️‏ @hikikomorphism 3 Dec 2019
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        Voted same, if only because I usually end up using a for my ingroup and b for my outgroup.

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      1. ian hines‏ @imhinesmi 3 Dec 2019
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        I'd say its a grab bag of tribal markers which are used as a guiding set of values, that pretend to be consistent, and may or may not actually be. Often the actual consistency varies on who exactly has the ideology and how much they've thought about it.

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      1. Poor Yorick‏ @a_fellow_of 3 Dec 2019
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        I use it to mean “the things you believe because someone/something else is pulling your strings”—so almost entirely polemically :/ https://twitter.com/a_fellow_of/status/1200497614615126023?s=20 …https://twitter.com/a_fellow_of/status/1200497614615126023 …

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        ohhh, so this is why people get so boring when they talk about politics. I see what happened there https://twitter.com/a_fellow_of/status/1199287163462070272 …
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      1. Valthor‏ @vlthr 3 Dec 2019
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        More A than B, though I would emphasize the subjective sense of worldview coherence over objective coherence. You can achieve the same feeling of apparent coherence by habitually dismissing threatening counterexamples.

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      1. Sara Luterman‏ @slooterman 3 Dec 2019
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        Depends on the context.

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      1. Niels Hoven 🍞‏ @NielsHoven 3 Dec 2019
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        I wish I lived in a world where I got to mean “a” but usually I have to mean “b”

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