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    1. Robin Hanson‏Verified account @robinhanson 22 Nov 2019
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      Student: "My career ambition to be an ethical technologist" Me: "Why do we need more ethics in tech?" "Just cause we can do something, doesn't mean we should" "We already have lots of ethics in tech, why do we need MORE?" <awkward silence>

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    2. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 23 Nov 2019
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      That’s not what ethics is.

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    3. Robin Hanson‏Verified account @robinhanson 23 Nov 2019
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      That's a bit too terse for me to understand you.

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    4. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 24 Nov 2019
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      You’re thinking of ethics as a thing you can trade off against other values, like one of many departments in a company. Indeed if you had an “ethics department”, it would be a compliance department, and I’d worry about overfunding it relative to others.

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    5. Robin Hanson‏Verified account @robinhanson 24 Nov 2019
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      Isn't valid to think of ethics as one of many topics to which one can pay attention? The fact that ethics has its own separate books, journals, conferences, etc. certainly gives that impression. If so, can't one pay too much attention to the topic?

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      Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 24 Nov 2019
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      That’s like counting uses of the string “ethics”, not its referent. The only meaning of ethics that makes sense to me is more like “policy/strategy consistent with one’s long term goals”, which should be a mindset informing everything you do.

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        2. entirelyuseless‏ @entirelyuseles 24 Nov 2019
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          Replying to @s_r_constantin @robinhanson

          Even defined like that, it is still possible to spend too much time and effort considering whether your proposed course of action is consistent with your goals. This is scrupulosity, and it is inconsistent with any goals.

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        3. Robin Hanson‏Verified account @robinhanson 24 Nov 2019
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          Yes, that seems right to me.

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        2. Roko Mijic‏ @RokoMijicUK 24 Nov 2019
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          unfortunately I think that in practice when people sit down to "do ethics", what they tend to do is more like Robin's useage than yours. See, for example, ethics committees at universities.

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        3. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 24 Nov 2019
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          Sure, but I think people should be at least a little sluggish in ceding words to conventional (cynical and debased) usage, or get a little pushback when they do.

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