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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 12 Aug 2019
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      Repeatedly I’m saddened by the sight of people I otherwise like, who are kind, thoughtful etc in their narrow domains, turn into unguided missiles uncritically doing the bidding of assholes because they are just too lazy to acquire a little sentiment literacy.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 12 Aug 2019
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      I actually don’t mind virtue signaling by conservatives, libertarians, or classical liberals. I don’t really expect better from then, since they are defined by their holy cow virtues and institutions, and the behavior is kinda natural for them. Harmonizes with their institutions.

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 12 Aug 2019
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      Progressive virtue signaling though, grates in an unpleasant way. I’m not sure why. Perhaps because I expect more from them. Ironically a virtue signal is an aliveness anti-signal to me. If you’re virtue signaling you’re not thinking and I generally expect prohressives to think.

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 12 Aug 2019
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      This may sound weird, but I don’t expect actual thinking from the rest because their value lies is faithfully reproducing old arguments, that were once progressive in their own time. I expect high-quality reproduction. Classic greatest hits from Aristotle to Hayek.

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 12 Aug 2019
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      Virtue signaling is expected from believers in old ideas that have been distilled. But “progressive” definitionally implies new ideas and fresh thinking. Stuff that hasn’t yet been compiled into “virtues” that can be signaled

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 12 Aug 2019
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      Most ideologies are almost by construction acting-dead ideologies (cf @bruces). Progressive politics has historically been associated with subversive thought, good art that disturbs and challenges, etc. To virtue signal is to admit failure at the progressive acting-alive project.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 12 Aug 2019
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      To resort to virtue signaling represents a deeper failure of progressivism than failure at politics. It represents failure at art. Failure to consistently surprise yourself and others. Failure to put the familiar into unfamiliar perspectives. Failure to in fact *progress*.

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    8. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 13 Aug 2019
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      Continuing from last night. Typical progressive values — justice, compassion, sustainability — seem to be far more deeply rooted in tradeoffs and compromise relative to non-progressive ones. There is no such thing as a “purist” way to be just, compassionate, or sustainable.

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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 13 Aug 2019
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      This might be why using them as fodder for virtue signaling is grating and smacks of authoritarianism. Justice is a tradeoff between confidence in evidence vs timeliness of redressal of harms experienced Compassion is a tradeoff between your pain and mine, present and future

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    10. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 13 Aug 2019
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      Sustainability is a tradeoff between living with the knowledge we have versus waiting to know it more deeply and completely. You cannot actually practice any progressive value in a formulaic way. Every instance of applying it requires non-trivial thought.

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      Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 13 Aug 2019
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      You seem to be saying "purist" and "nontrivial thought" are opposites. But they're not. "Purist" means holding the line -- a stalwart refusal to do certain things, ever. Generative thought *can* exist within boundaries.

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        2. Sarah Constantin‏ @s_r_constantin 13 Aug 2019
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          Not engaging with morons, for instance, is a boundary that can make you more creative.

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        3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 13 Aug 2019
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          Sure if the boundaries are themselves grounded in pragmatic awareness of their limits. How good is your moron classifier if you believe that one How well do you understand axiom of choice, godel type foundational subtleties if you draw a hard boundary around “logical”

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