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    Ryan Grim‏Verified account @ryangrim May 4

    Elaine Kamarck here asserts as fact that party leaders are more concerned with electability while party activists care about ideology. That’s backwards. In my experience, activists heavily weigh electability and party leaders are highly ideologicalhttps://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/03/opinion/dccc-democratic-primaries-interference.html …

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      1. Ryan Grim‏Verified account @ryangrim May 4

        She also says that not everywhere is like Berkeley. I get it, haha. But guess what? The Dem establishment is going hard for Buffy Wicks, the most conservative Dem in a California race to represent...Berkeley. Yes, Berkeley.http://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/04/11/opinion-why-no-tenant-should-vote-for-buffy-wicks-for-assembly …

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      2. Annissa‏ @IDreamOnDemand May 4
        Replying to @ryangrim @digby56

        Is there data to support either set of claims? Are activist and party leaders mutually exclusive? Do different roles dictate priorities, or do priorities drive people toward certain roles? Is it possible to be both ideological and pragmatic?

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      3. Ryan Grim‏Verified account @ryangrim May 4
        Replying to @IDreamOnDemand @digby56

        @ddayen has some data on this

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      4. David Dayen‏ @ddayen May 5
        Replying to @ryangrim @IDreamOnDemand @digby56

        we'll have a story next week.

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      5. I.F. Thunder‏ @IFThunder May 5
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        Is "quest for money and power" an ideology? Because that's all DLC means to me.

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      2. planned adolescence‏ @Mr_Sutherlin May 4
        Replying to @ryangrim @digby56

        This is an interesting idea. Have you written elsewhere about this?

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      3. Ryan Grim‏Verified account @ryangrim May 4
        Replying to @Mr_Sutherlin @digby56

        @aedwardslevy and I did a survey on this a few years ago I think?

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      4. planned adolescence‏ @Mr_Sutherlin May 4
        Replying to @ryangrim @digby56 @aedwardslevy

        Ok. Trying to google that, but drawing a lot of internet debris. Can you just link me?

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      1. Doug Ricketson‏ @dricketson6464 May 5
        Replying to @ryangrim

        Actually, I wouldn't disagree, but I would counter. I don't see it as ideology or electability ...I see it as retention of party power for corporateer Dems. That's what they are about. Go Jovanka Beckles!

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      1. Arceuthobium‏ @TheOtherSimo May 4
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        Is insider groupthink really an ideology though? Those who swim in it think it's objective reality.

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      1. Brian J. Stamps‏ @DaR8iders May 4
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        Here I thought it was all about the voters and policies that speak to them! I gotta start hanging out in the beltway and mingling with its bullshitters more often!

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        Of course party leaders are, they have to answer to the big money donors they court and that money comes with specific idealogical intention strings attached. Activists care more about electability because they're actual constituents.https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/992591736324153345 …

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        Ryan GrimVerified account @ryangrim
        Elaine Kamarck here asserts as fact that party leaders are more concerned with electability while party activists care about ideology. That’s backwards. In my experience, activists heavily weigh electability and party leaders are highly ideological https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/03/opinion/dccc-democratic-primaries-interference.html …
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      1. The Fool‏ @TheFool37 May 4
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        When it comes to backing candidates party leaders are largely driven by perceived electability, as long as a candidate is somewhere near the mainstream ideologically -- which is arguably another electability concern

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