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    Ryan Grim‏Verified account @ryangrim Mar 27

    Ryan Grim Retweeted Marc Love  🏳️‍🌈

    This was not shoddy journalism by Lee, it was an error that I edited into his story. He filed the story accurately and I mistakenly added immigrant to the top of the story. He is on vacation now so couldn’t read it over. It was 100% on me, not on Lee.https://twitter.com/marcslove/status/978488690690334721 …

    Ryan Grim added,

    Marc Love  🏳️‍🌈 @marcslove
    The Intercept prints a partial retraction of its ICE-Facebook story, blaming it on “editing.” Shoddy journalism by Lee Fang. pic.twitter.com/D11HOeonGW
    5:18 AM - 27 Mar 2018
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      2. Rocky Beethoven‏ @rockybeethoven Mar 27
        Replying to @ryangrim

        Why did you "add immigrant to the top of the story"? What made you do that?

        1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
      3. lemmy caution‏ @lemmy_caution2 Mar 27
        Replying to @rockybeethoven @ryangrim

        likely because that is what ICE usually deals with and he thought he was making the story easier to understand

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Ryan Grim‏Verified account @ryangrim Mar 27
        Replying to @lemmy_caution2 @rockybeethoven

        Right

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      5. Rocky Beethoven‏ @rockybeethoven Mar 27
        Replying to @ryangrim @lemmy_caution2

        That's not the reasoning of a professional editor, especially since the story is not about an immigrant, but likely about a suspected felon, which makes ICE's information request sound quite legit. The story itself is bad journalism. Your poor judgement is just the cherry on top

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. lemmy caution‏ @lemmy_caution2 Mar 27
        Replying to @rockybeethoven @ryangrim

        It is almost as if he made a mistake

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Micheál Keane‏ @aexia Mar 27
        Replying to @ryangrim

        Fang wrote an article that from top to bottom, with or without your immigrant addition, that implies ICE routinely uses Facebook data In reality, it was a criminal investigation. Do you seriously not realize this is still misleading garbage?

        1 reply 1 retweet 26 likes
      3. Micheál Keane‏ @aexia Mar 27
        Replying to @aexia @ryangrim

        It's like writing a piece about how the government routinely records phone conversations of citizens & then belatedly adds an update that the person in question was the subject of a criminal investigation & had been wiretapped.

        1 reply 2 retweets 14 likes
      4. Micheál Keane‏ @aexia Mar 27
        Replying to @aexia @ryangrim

        The entire piece should be retracted.

        0 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
      5. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. Patricia Lopez‏ @StribLopez Mar 27
        Replying to @ryangrim @chrislhayes

        That is the most stand-up defense of a reporter’s work by an editor I’ve seen in a while. Thank you.

        2 replies 6 retweets 176 likes
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      2. Ellah-Ween‏ @Ellahbie Mar 27
        Replying to @ryangrim

        Thank you for admitting you’re human & make mistakes. Issuing corrections always makes me trust the reporting more. If a news org never issues corrections, it proves they’re lying.

        1 reply 1 retweet 46 likes
      3. Decaco‏ @Decaco1 Mar 27
        Replying to @Ellahbie @ryangrim

        The problem is the story generally runs on the front page while the retraction runs on the 6th page. They have to be more accurate.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Ellah-Ween‏ @Ellahbie Mar 27
        Replying to @Decaco1 @ryangrim

        In the old days. Now the story is corrected online & an explanation given at its conclusion.

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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      6. Ellah-Ween‏ @Ellahbie Mar 27
        Replying to @satanicunicorn @Decaco1 @ryangrim

        Agreed.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      1. Two quick deaths‏ @IM_Foreman Mar 27
        Replying to @ryangrim

        Yeah your finger slipped and I hit the immigrant key. Happens to me all the time.

        0 replies 2 retweets 23 likes
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      1. Alex Coats‏ @bigaltimeter Mar 27
        Replying to @ryangrim @benshapiro

        Holy shit, someone taking responsibility for a mistake?!??

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      1. Susana Venir‏ @susana_venir Mar 27
        Replying to @ryangrim

        Susana Venir Retweeted Dara Lind

        Ryan, I very much respect you for taking responsibility publicly like this. But there was (is) a lot more wrong with how that story was presented and with how it was corrected. Dara Lind got it right:https://twitter.com/DLind/status/978432990803103745 …

        Susana Venir added,

        Dara LindVerified account @DLind
        So in summary: The Intercept has a record of FB data being used for what appears to be a federal-local criminal investigation by one division of ICE, & is framing it in a way that strongly implies it is used routinely by ICE's other division for civil immigration enforcement. 😕
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      1. David Z. Morris‏ @davidzmorris Mar 27
        Replying to @ryangrim @mathewi

        Massive respect for the transparency and clarity. The idea that journalists must be flawless to be valuable is toxic.

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      2. Self-exiled to the Taiga  ☯ ☮‏ @taiganist Mar 27
        Replying to @ryangrim

        Fact is, there are plenty of enemies of The Intercept waiting to pounce at the slightest misstep. That means the Intercept is doing journalist right.

        3 replies 0 retweets 22 likes
      3. HoHoHoldUp, Esq.‏ @viburnc Mar 27
        Replying to @taiganist @ryangrim

        This is a terrible take borrowed from people that can’t abide critical thinking.

        0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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