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    1. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 5 Nov 2016
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      The reason we adjust polls for the national trend is because **that's what works best emperically**. It's not a subjective assumption.

      135 replies 311 retweets 1,756 likes
    2. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 5 Nov 2016
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      It's wrong to show Clinton with a 6-point lead (as per HuffPo) when **almost no national poll shows that**. Doesn't reflect the data.

      88 replies 465 retweets 1,440 likes
    3. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 5 Nov 2016
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      Every model makes assumptions but we actually test ours based on the evidence. Some of the other models are barley even empirical.

      93 replies 161 retweets 917 likes
    4. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 5 Nov 2016
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      There are also a gajillion ways to make a model overconfident, whereas it's pretty hard to make one overconfident.

      73 replies 76 retweets 468 likes
    5. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 5 Nov 2016
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      If you haven't carefully tested how errors are correlated between states, for example, your model will be way overconfident.

      23 replies 128 retweets 666 likes
    6. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 5 Nov 2016
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      Not just an issue in elections models. Failure to understand how risks are correlated is part of what led to the 2007/8 financial crisis.

      48 replies 335 retweets 1,337 likes
    7. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 5 Nov 2016
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      There's a reasonable range of disagreement. But a model showing Clinton at 98% or 99% is not defensible based on the empirical evidence.

      110 replies 322 retweets 1,336 likes
    8. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 5 Nov 2016
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      We constantly write about our assumptions and **provide evidence** for why we think they're the right ones.http://53eig.ht/2epcWOQ 

      46 replies 212 retweets 829 likes
    9. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 5 Nov 2016
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      That's what makes a model a useful scientific & journalistic tool. It's a way to understand how elections work. Not just about the results.

      41 replies 135 retweets 812 likes
    10. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 5 Nov 2016
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      The problem is that we're doing this in a world where people—like @ryangrim—don't actually give a shit about evidence and proof.

      130 replies 313 retweets 1,623 likes
      Ryan Grim‏Verified account @ryangrim 5 Nov 2016
      Replying to @NateSilver538

      ur trend line adjustment was certainly theoretically defensible 18 mos. ago, but you can't ignore the wild effect it has had

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        2. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 5 Nov 2016
          Replying to @ryangrim

          : Very professional of you not bother asking me for comment ahead of time. So unbelievably lazy.

          66 replies 108 retweets 915 likes
        3. Ryan Grim‏Verified account @ryangrim 5 Nov 2016
          Replying to @NateSilver538

          the piece links to your public reasoning. Happy to add any further explanation you want in there

          27 replies 5 retweets 40 likes
        4. Nate Silver‏Verified account @NateSilver538 5 Nov 2016
          Replying to @ryangrim

          : The article made clear you have **no fucking idea** what you're talking about. That's why you contract people **ahead of time**.

          131 replies 185 retweets 996 likes
        5. Nilan  🇱🇰 නිලාන්‏ @nilanp 5 Nov 2016
          Replying to @NateSilver538

          Nilan  🇱🇰 නිලාන් Retweeted Nate Silver

          . @NateSilver538 my hero Ultimate take down of a huffington post journo by a statisticianhttps://mobile.twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/795015340539473924 …

          Nilan  🇱🇰 නිලාන් added,

          Nate SilverVerified account @NateSilver538
          Replying to @ryangrim
          : The article made clear you have **no fucking idea** what you're talking about. That's why you contract people **ahead of time**.
          0 replies 8 retweets 35 likes
        6. End of conversation
        1. Rae Cline  🧐‏ @enolarae 5 Nov 2016
          Replying to @ryangrim

          Ur argument is the equivalent of throwing a snowball at @NateSilver538 and declaring climate change doesn't exist

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        1. Matthew Fink‏ @matthfink 6 Nov 2016
          Replying to @ryangrim @NateSilver538

          538 projections a lot closer to the pack for senate control, and they don't use natl trend line adj. Coincidence?

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        1. Matthew Fink‏ @matthfink 6 Nov 2016
          Replying to @ryangrim @NateSilver538

          trend line adj projects state polls when infreq using natl poll trend. But 2x counts trend when state polls freq!

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        1. Matthew Fink‏ @matthfink 5 Nov 2016
          Replying to @ryangrim @NateSilver538

          Matthew Fink Retweeted Matthew Fink

          Thank you!! I said sameon Friday! Trend line adj has no place when state polls are frequenthttps://twitter.com/matthfink/status/794662880041910272 …

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          Matthew Fink @matthfink
          @FiveThirtyEight @NateSilver538 #Elections2016 Doesn't trend line adj (~+2 Trump) 2x count momentum when swing state polling frequent (now)?
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        1. Philip Graeter‏ @graeter 5 Nov 2016
          Replying to @ryangrim

          .@ryangrim @NateSilver538 Grim's art. pretends Nate isn't open book - tons of public explanatory mat'l. Lazy 2 say he's just making it up.

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        1. Jerry Armbrister‏ @JerryArmbrister 5 Nov 2016
          Replying to @ryangrim

          Article says Clinton has a comfortable lead in Florida. Not true. She might win due to turn out, demographics, but close race.

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        1. Kevin Rahardjo‏ @KevinRahardjo1 5 Nov 2016
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          So this is the kind of shitty journalism Huffpo has huh?

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        1. Matthew Haverman‏ @Todays_Entry 5 Nov 2016
          Replying to @ryangrim @NateSilver538

          I have no dog in this fight, but this Grim person seems to not know what the F he is talking about.

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        1. Doug Turnbull‏ @softwaredoug 5 Nov 2016
          Replying to @ryangrim @NateSilver538

          is that wild effect wrong? I'm honestly curious trying to learn this stuff. Why do you assume low volatility?

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        1. Mary Brown‏ @MaryBro77801894 7 Nov 2016
          Replying to @ryangrim @NateSilver538

          Hitlery rally: half a high school gym, Trump rally: 20,000+++ in a football stadium. BOTH of you are fucked up!

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        1. Future Children‏ @FutureChldrn 6 Nov 2016
          Replying to @ryangrim @NateSilver538

          He's following a model which has historical correlation. How do you want him to change the model and on what basis

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        1. Richard Mortensen‏ @surfchicken16 6 Nov 2016
          Replying to @ryangrim @NateSilver538

          you really do not understand the trend line adjustment. Maybe audit a stats class.

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        1. Vikky Storm - Spooky Sea of Grain  👻 🔫 🤠 🥀 🕊‏ @deathpigeon 5 Nov 2016
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          What you're saying is that it was ok when it was helping your candidate, but not now that it's hurting her?

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        1. sixf0ur‏ @64s 5 Nov 2016
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          Why is this wrong, @ryangrim ? You don't understand how probabilities work, do you?

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        1. shtarbucks‏ @hermanbranover1 5 Nov 2016
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          do you like anal sex? Also do you pleasure yourself to pictures of Hillary? Or Anthony Weiner?

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