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    Ryan Grim‏Verified account @ryangrim 29 May 2015

    Serious Q: What's the difference between blackmail payments and a big severance check that comes with a nondisclosure agreement?

    2:36 PM - 29 May 2015
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      2. Nick Baumann‏Verified account @NickBaumann 29 May 2015
        Replying to @ryangrim

        @ryangrim you'll note Hastert was not charged with paying blackmail, just smurfing and lying to the feds

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      3. Ryan Grim‏Verified account @ryangrim 29 May 2015
        Replying to @NickBaumann

        @NickBaumann So he'd have been fine if he just signed an agreement and cut a check, right?

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      4. Nick Baumann‏Verified account @NickBaumann 29 May 2015
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        @ryangrim yes of course

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      5. Ryan Grim‏Verified account @ryangrim 29 May 2015
        Replying to @NickBaumann

        @NickBaumann Let this be a lesson to criminals everywhere

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      2. Laura Goldman‏ @laurasgoldman 29 May 2015
        Replying to @ryangrim

        @ryangrim hate to defend #Hastert but the difference is an ambitious prosecutor

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      3. Ethan D. Kirschner‏ @ethankirschner 29 May 2015
        Replying to @laurasgoldman

        @laurasgoldman @ryangrim disagree. threatening to disclose private info and entering into prelitigation negotiations are separate things.

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      4. Laura Goldman‏ @laurasgoldman 29 May 2015
        Replying to @ethankirschner

        @ethankirschner @ryangrim You are technically right If $1000 an hour lawyer threatens, it is legal If victims do, it's extortion No dif 2 me

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      5. Ethan D. Kirschner‏ @ethankirschner 29 May 2015
        Replying to @laurasgoldman

        @laurasgoldman @ryangrim it's a fine line, but one that prosecutors respect

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      6. Laura Goldman‏ @laurasgoldman 29 May 2015
        Replying to @ethankirschner

        .@ethankirschner .@ryangrim This is why non lawyers like me quote Dickens -The law is an ass These are distinctions w/o a difference

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      7. Ethan D. Kirschner‏ @ethankirschner 29 May 2015
        Replying to @laurasgoldman

        @laurasgoldman @ryangrim legal process (and right of free speech) to resolve a private disagreement. seehttp://www.law360.com/articles/457863/hollywood-atty-s-demand-letter-not-extortion-court-says …

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      8. Laura Goldman‏ @laurasgoldman 29 May 2015
        Replying to @ethankirschner

        @ethankirschner @ryangrim People shouldn't go to prison for violating fine lines Article proved my point A lawyer knew how to avoid jail BFD

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      9. Ethan D. Kirschner‏ @ethankirschner 29 May 2015
        Replying to @laurasgoldman

        @laurasgoldman @ryangrim i wonder if you would feel the same way if you are someone you loved were subjected to an extortion attempt

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      1. klhoughton‏ @klhoughton 29 May 2015
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        @ryangrim Serious answer: The NDA spells out the consequences of its breech. A person being blackmailed does not.

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      1. Russ Walker‏ @russ_walker 29 May 2015
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        @ryangrim one is typically reported to the IRS, the other ... not.

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