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    1. Ryan Grim‏Verified account @ryangrim Aug 17
      Replying to @MattBruenig @jaketapper and

      Not to pile on, but everything hinges on whether Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez said that the study found M4A would save "the government $2 trillion." I've never seen Sanders or AOC make that claim. It's about overall costs.

      4 replies 24 retweets 478 likes
    2. Jon Schwarz‏Verified account @schwarz Aug 17
      Replying to @ryangrim @MattBruenig and

      Yeah, that's really a screaming factual error on Jake's part. What's worse is that it's the kind of error that would be hard to make if you're familiar with the basic facts of this issue.

      1 reply 3 retweets 68 likes
    3. Jesse Spafford‏ @jessespafford Aug 17
      Replying to @schwarz @ryangrim and

      Jake's problem is that, as a Respectable Centrist, he takes it to be an a priori truth that the crazy leftists are obviously wrong. Thus, he doesn't feel the need to actually look too closely into the issue to see if they are, in fact, wrong.

      1 reply 1 retweet 41 likes
    4. Jesse Spafford‏ @jessespafford Aug 17
      Replying to @jessespafford @schwarz and

      Sure, the only person telling him that Bernie is wrong is this extremely biased source. But, that doesn't really matter because the left simply *must* be wrong. So, no need to look into the source's claims, as they are credible in virtue of the fact that they confirm his priors.

      1 reply 0 retweets 23 likes
    5. Jon Schwarz‏Verified account @schwarz Aug 17
      Replying to @jessespafford @ryangrim and

      The Mercatus guy is obviously being deceptive but what's weird is this particular glaring error doesn't seem to have originated with him. It appears far more likely that Jake & co. came up with it themselves — and they did so because they don't understand this issue at all.

      1 reply 2 retweets 24 likes
    6. Jon Schwarz‏Verified account @schwarz Aug 17
      Replying to @schwarz @jessespafford and

      That said, obviously Sanders and all his Crazee Hippie friends are Wrong and Crazee. I mean, it's right there in their name.

      1 reply 0 retweets 12 likes
      Ryan Grim‏Verified account @ryangrim Aug 17
      Replying to @schwarz @jessespafford and

      I don’t think this was Jake. It’s a partnership with http://factcheck.org  and he (not unreasonably) trusted them to do an accurate fact check.

      1:57 PM - 17 Aug 2018 from Washington, DC
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        2. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg Aug 17
          Replying to @ryangrim @schwarz and

          Why are all the "fact check" websites so bad at even capturing what a fact is? It's mind-boggling.

          1 reply 0 retweets 21 likes
        3. Ryan Grim‏Verified account @ryangrim Aug 17
          Replying to @BenSpielberg @schwarz and

          It’s deeply frustrating.

          1 reply 1 retweet 14 likes
        4. Jon Schwarz‏Verified account @schwarz Aug 17
          Replying to @ryangrim @BenSpielberg and

          Even if the error originated with http://factcheck.org , it's like going on air and saying, "Is Sanders right to claim that, immediately after 9/11, the US invaded Belize?" I feel like CNN anchors should know enough about politics to want to doublecheck that personally.

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
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        2. Jesse Spafford‏ @jessespafford Aug 17
          Replying to @ryangrim @schwarz and

          It’s an editorial decision by Jake and he is standing by the report. Though I imagine the same mentality I describe is pervasive among self-appointed fact checkers as well.

          1 reply 0 retweets 15 likes
        3. Jake Tapper‏Verified account @jaketapper Aug 19
          Replying to @jessespafford @ryangrim and

          The criticism made here about the “American people” versus “the government” is on point and totally valid so we’re going to redo that part of the video.

          22 replies 7 retweets 134 likes
        4. Mitch BOOurns‏ @mitchburns80 Aug 19
          Replying to @jaketapper @MattBruenig and

          While you are at it, why don't you ask an non-koch funded economist how it is that every other industrialized nation in the world somehow manages the impossible, Jake?

          1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
        5. Jon Schwarz‏Verified account @schwarz Aug 19
          Replying to @mitchburns80 @jaketapper and

          Right, if the agenda was to help people understand this, Tapper would have asked economists who could have explained why the Mercatus study's finding of $2 trillion in savings was probably an underestimate.

          1 reply 1 retweet 22 likes
        6. Mitch BOOurns‏ @mitchburns80 Aug 19
          Replying to @schwarz @jaketapper and

          It's obvious tapper is only concerned about the appearance of bias, not bias itself. He will overdub the quote and take away that dumbass "false" graphic and walk away happy.

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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        1. Always People over Party‏ @NoParty2020 Aug 17
          Replying to @ryangrim @schwarz and

          Hmmm you give him to much credit for being (cough, cough) honest.

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