Kevin de León stuns Dianne Feinstein, wins Democratic Party endorsement in a landslide https://interc.pt/2uAwE0y by @ddayen
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"ON WHOSE BEHALF" Yup, that sums up the hypocrisy.
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So you support the party elites no matter whose behalf they work on? (Don’t read wiki on the history of the Democratic party! Might raise some uncomfortable questions. On whose behalf a party fights is not incidental, it’s everything.)
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Condescend much? "Don't read wiki"? I don't need to - I'm a former CA state delegate & a CA voter. Thanks for Beltway-splaining CA to me. Lucky for
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That doesn’t answer the question. If you disagree with the party sometimes, but not other times, does that make you a hypocrite? Or does it means you think there are higher values than party loyalty?
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I think you and Greenwald are hypocrites. Not going to dance around it. I think party endorsements are fine. I also think they are largely worthless based on 25 yrs working in politics In my area both the party endorsed candidates for State Rep and State Sen lost. My problem with
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Your gymnastics is that you and others at the Intercept have pushed the idea that Bernie Sanders lost b/c of party intervention. He didn’t - he got 4m fewer votes (that’s a lot). However party intervention is fine b/c you prefer DeLeon to Feinstein. That’s just plain hypocrisy.
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I wrote the story - which mainly just tells what happened at the endorsement - and if you can find one example where I (nobody else, just me) pushed any idea about Bernie Sanders losing the primary due to party intervention I'll mail you a free copy of my book.
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Same. Except my book.
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You haven't? Then why all the criticism of
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I’ve written about how they’ve practiced it, not the principle itself. Huge difference.
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Can you make that distinction more clear in your future pieces?
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Because that’s quite a few of us that didn’t catch that nuance.
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I report on what the party does. I’m flattered you care what my opinion on the principle is. I try not to preach in stories, but if you think it could help to try to add that, sure
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Some of your critics are referencing this tweet. How should we interpret it?https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/740199206770593792?s=19 …
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As the piece says, the winner was finally declared by a secret vote of some nameless super delegates, which is objectively a not-very-open process. The opacity of it was galling.
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“Question is to what end it uses that power, and on whose behalf.” Translation: it’s good if the party uses its power for MY candidate. But it is establishment hackery when they endorse someone else. Gotta love the hypocrisy that The Intercept is so famous for.
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It’s not about candidates, but about issues. What is the best way to make people’s lives better? If party elites are doing that, great. They should be using every lever they have to do that. But their record ain’t great.
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well that's a flat-out lie.
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I don’t get how this is so complicated for some folks.
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it's simple. You're not being honest. You and your publication spent the entire election pretending it was "rigged" and somehow stolen from Sanders.
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