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    Ryan Grim‏Verified account @ryangrim Jun 29

    The Congressional Hispanic Caucus can't wait to meet @Ocasio2018. The whole #abolishICE thing? That's a little trickierhttps://interc.pt/2KyQ6EO 

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      2. Saif‏ @Monoculturist Jun 29
        Replying to @ryangrim @Ocasio2018

        This whole 'abolishing ICE' debate is incredibly frustrating. Nobody genuinely believes there should be zero enforcement of immigration laws and effectively no borders. So 'abolition' basically boils down to curtailing ICE's dickishness and renaming it. Which is disingenuous.

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      3. LynneMarie‏ @TwinCitiesChick Jun 30
        Replying to @Monoculturist @ryangrim @Ocasio2018

        That's ridiculous. ICE was created in 2003. It most certainly *can* be abolished, and it should be.

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      4. Saif‏ @Monoculturist Jun 30
        Replying to @TwinCitiesChick @ryangrim @Ocasio2018

        it was created in '03 to replace the INS which enforced immigration laws. We can abolish enforcement agencies 10 times & rebrand them but their mandate remains- enforcing the laws. Abolishing is the equivalent of yelling at the faucet b/c the water company turned off your water.

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      5. Ryan Grim‏Verified account @ryangrim Jun 30
        Replying to @Monoculturist @TwinCitiesChick @Ocasio2018

        Keep in mind that institutional culture is a real thing. It has gone malignant at ICE and when that happens, the best solution is to end it and disperse its various responsibilities elsewhere. It’s a rogue agency.

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      6. Saif‏ @Monoculturist Jun 30
        Replying to @ryangrim @TwinCitiesChick @Ocasio2018

        But again, what you're saying isn't akin to the 'abolish the IRS' crowd on the right insofar as they mean cut taxes. If abolishing ICE means dispersing a concentrated malignancy, you still have to deal with the malignancy acting out in the agencies that resume its mandate.

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      7. Ryan Grim‏Verified account @ryangrim Jun 30
        Replying to @Monoculturist @TwinCitiesChick @Ocasio2018

        That misunderstands the role of institutional culture

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      1. Jan Itor  🌹‏ @scrubsfan10 Jun 29
        Replying to @ryangrim @Ocasio2018 @theintercept

        I wonder if it has to do with their donors, and where they get campaign donations from

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      1. Miguel Nieves‏ @niev0000 Jun 29
        Replying to @ryangrim @Ocasio2018

        I hope they kick Melendez out.

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      1. Rudy Rat‏ @ratraceco Jun 29
        Replying to @ryangrim @WalkerBragman @Ocasio2018

        “She was out early calling to “abolish ICE,” which many feel has become a brutal, unchecked agency with little oversight.” ...where’s everyone been? Ever heard of the DOD?

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