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    1. Cheng Lou‏ @_chenglou Nov 1

      @rsnous how would you enhance a common notes or chat app through a geokit-like concept? Most I can think of is e.g. displaying multiple conversation views at the same time, which isn’t very inspiring

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    2. Omar Rizwan‏ @rsnous Nov 1
      Replying to @_chenglou

      good question -- I've thought about this a bit too since that's most of what I do on normal computers. if I had a _really_ good idea, I would have tried it by now :) maybe borrow from LiquidText:https://www.liquidtext.net/ 

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    3. Omar Rizwan‏ @rsnous Nov 1
      Replying to @rsnous @_chenglou

      There's not such an obvious spatial element, and the objects are more ephemeral (individual chat messages, notes) so hard to map them directly to physical pages

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      Omar Rizwan‏ @rsnous Nov 1
      Replying to @rsnous @_chenglou

      wonder if @worrydream has any thoughts. the high-level answer might be "these are things you can do in real life with pen+paper / speech respectively, so build from there rather than recreating the virtual computerized app"

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        2. Cheng Lou‏ @_chenglou Nov 1
          Replying to @rsnous @worrydream

          Since macOS supports multiple windows for Notes and Messages, I’ve tried them and it’s not much of an improvement to see the first five conversations vs one. Maybe I’m short-sighted trying to cleanly map collection view items/page views into cards

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        3. Cheng Lou‏ @_chenglou Nov 1
          Replying to @_chenglou @rsnous @worrydream

          It’s hard starting from real-life Notes, since that’s just... a notebook, and not much of an improvement over Notes app even including interactivity?

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        2. Bret Victor‏ @worrydream Nov 2
          Replying to @rsnous @_chenglou

          this is how people take notes and chat (for real work) when not confined by a screenpic.twitter.com/WD4zslRPEM

          1 reply 6 retweets 19 likes
        3. Bret Victor‏ @worrydream Nov 2
          Replying to @worrydream @rsnous @_chenglou

          this is a photo of my study space at this very minutepic.twitter.com/vOtL6kHxZv

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        4. Not Jack‏ @notcalledjack Nov 2
          Replying to @worrydream @rsnous @_chenglou

          This is an honest question, I'm not trying to tweak you: isn't that *massively* inconvenient relative to a screen?

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        5. Bret Victor‏ @worrydream Nov 2
          Replying to @notcalledjack @rsnous @_chenglou

          slightly less convenient, massively *massively* more effective. I care about effectiveness.

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        6. Caetano‏ @taecano Nov 2
          Replying to @worrydream @notcalledjack and

          how is it different to a screen for you/for learning? Periferic vision has a an impact for quickly reference? Also honest question.

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        7. Srini Kadamati‏ @SriniKadamati Nov 2
          Replying to @taecano @worrydream and

          By spreading things out, you can do *arbitrary* transformations, re-arrangements, linking, anything you want at the speed of thought. You could easily compare pages 1, 4, 8, and 12. Then shift to pages 4 and 12. Then 5 and 12. All with little conscious thinking.

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        8. Cheng Lou‏ @_chenglou Nov 2
          Replying to @SriniKadamati @taecano and

          But again, that assumes a static number of pages right? Which is what I meant initially; spreading my macOS Notes/Messages convos windows out (from double clicking on item row) wasn’t as helpful as I imagined. I do think I’m not yet seeing what “linking” can do here

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        9. Srini Kadamati‏ @SriniKadamati Nov 2
          Replying to @_chenglou @taecano and

          I imagine your workflow would need to be re-thought a bit to really take advantage of the space. Paper is static and the dynamic-ness that a computer screen provides. You have to be okay editing / commenting via pencil & paper instead of quickly changing via a keyboard.

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