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    1. Omar Rizwan‏ @rsnous Feb 16

      Against Buttons

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    2. Omar Rizwan‏ @rsnous Feb 16

      Against Files

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    3. Ibrahim‏ @disquiet07 Feb 16
      Replying to @rsnous

      wanna elaborate?

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    4. Ibrahim‏ @disquiet07 Feb 16
      Replying to @disquiet07 @rsnous

      but "everything is a file" unix style

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    5. Omar Rizwan‏ @rsnous Feb 16
      Replying to @disquiet07

      if you write a program and use variables, all levels of the memory hierarchy are automatically managed: - registers - CPU cache - RAM …until you hit disk! then you have to manually serialize and unserialize files

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    6. Omar Rizwan‏ @rsnous Feb 16
      Replying to @rsnous @disquiet07

      files are a weak lowest-common-denominator interface between programs in different languages (C, Python, Ruby, Swift, VB, bash, etc) in ecosystems with one language (iOS, JS, Lisp, Smalltalk), you often don't see files: you just persist the rich native structures of the language

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    7. Gordon Brander‏ @gordonbrander Oct 25
      Replying to @rsnous @disquiet07

      OTOH — lowest common denominator interfaces allow for emergent behavior. They focus all the constraints in one place, leaving the rest of the system definition open-ended. Like defining the LEGO dot, but not what shape pieces may take.

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      Omar Rizwan‏ @rsnous Oct 25
      Replying to @gordonbrander @disquiet07

      With files, imo the lack of structure 1. forces duplication of functions at the app level (de/serialization, cross-links, …) and 2. prevents coordination for higher-level behavior #1 here seems different from LEGO, but I can't quite articulate it in terms of your analogy

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        2. Gordon Brander‏ @gordonbrander Oct 25
          Replying to @rsnous @disquiet07

          I agree. Low-level interop has a high floor, high ceiling. Higher-level interop (like Smalltalk) has lower floors, because deeper system integration. However, that deeper integration often means you end up more entangled with the system’s strengths and weaknesses.

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        3. Gordon Brander‏ @gordonbrander Oct 25
          Replying to @gordonbrander @rsnous @disquiet07

          Higher level interop is more prescriptive, but interoperates more broadly. So maybe a better analogy is... Smalltalk — LEGO dots Files — glue :p

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