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Rosyna Keller
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Rosyna Keller

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A long time Mac developer that also Always Needs a Hug. Probably not a shoe. Cotidie Morimur

Joined February 2009
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    Rosyna Keller ‏@rosyna 12 Jan 2015

    So it appears Apple does detect abusers of their new 14-day return policy for digital items and revokes the ability.pic.twitter.com/JegmZlPiZy

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      1. Joefrey Kibuule, MD ‏@jeffkibuule 12 Jan 2015 Midtown, Houston

        @rosyna @jamesthomson When do you ever buy an app without downloading it?

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      2. Rosyna Keller ‏@rosyna 12 Jan 2015

        @jeffkibuule @jamesthomson It's mostly to follow the EU refund law, which exempts digital items once downloaded and requires the message.

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      3. Rosyna Keller ‏@rosyna 12 Jan 2015

        @jeffkibuule @jamesthomson Apple's policy went above and beyond the EU requirements and many devs wondered about abuse. This is addressed.

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      4. Joefrey Kibuule, MD ‏@jeffkibuule 12 Jan 2015 Midtown, Houston

        @rosyna @jamesthomson I get that but doesn’t buying an app automatically trigger a download too. Is that separate in the EU now?

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      5. Rosyna Keller ‏@rosyna 12 Jan 2015

        @jeffkibuule @jamesthomson It still automatically triggers a download unless you've abused the system, in which case you are warned.

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      6. Rosyna Keller ‏@rosyna 12 Jan 2015

        @jeffkibuule @jamesthomson It allows Apple to conform to the EU law without harming UX while preventing abuse of the refund policy.

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      7. Joefrey Kibuule, MD ‏@jeffkibuule 12 Jan 2015 Midtown, Houston

        @rosyna @jamesthomson Ah, now that makes sense.

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      1. Benjamin Mayo ‏@bzamayo 12 Jan 2015

        @rosyna Do you know if this is new?

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      2. Rosyna Keller ‏@rosyna 12 Jan 2015

        @bzamayo It happened sometime between Dec 29th when Apple instituted the 14 day policy and Jan 12th

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    1. Rosyna Keller ‏@rosyna 12 Jan 2015

      (that message only appears if Apple detects refund policy abuse)

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      1. Kenneth Ervin Young ‏@kennetheyoung 12 Jan 2015

        @rosyna @Cocoanetics - What value is a 14 day return policy on an app/book/movie that once you download you can't return? I don't get it?

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      2. Rosyna Keller ‏@rosyna 12 Jan 2015

        @kennetheyoung @Cocoanetics Mostly for accidental or incompatible purchases, I'd guess.

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      1. Gary Riches ‏@Gary_BBGames 12 Jan 2015 Royston, England

        @rosyna @Freerunnering I’m curious as to how legal this is. Isn’t it a statutory right?

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      3. Rosyna Keller ‏@rosyna 12 Jan 2015

        @Gary_BBGames @Freerunnering Hmm? The EU law explicitly exempts digital goods once downloaded. Apple's refund policy goes above and beyond.

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      4. Gary Riches ‏@Gary_BBGames 13 Jan 2015 Loughton, East

        @rosyna @Freerunnering Sorry, I totally skipped over the “once downloaded” part of that message

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      1. Joshua Lückers ‏@JoshuaL 12 Jan 2015

        @rosyna @Cocoanetics Are apps also removed from the device(s)?

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      2. Rosyna Keller ‏@rosyna 12 Jan 2015

        @JoshuaL @Cocoanetics Apple has never removed apps from an iOS device. This includes if a person gets a refund.

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      3. Joshua Lückers ‏@JoshuaL 12 Jan 2015

        @rosyna ok thanks for the info :)

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    2. Sébastien Page ‏@SebastienPage 13 Jan 2015

      @rosyna It would have been nice to credit @iDownloadBlog for this instead of making it sound like you made the discovery

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    3. Niels Castle ‏@nielscastle 12 Jan 2015

      @rosyna If presented at first download it goes against 14 day no-questions asked return policy. Fine if show when downloading returned app

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