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Roopesh Chander
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Roopesh Chander

@roopeshchander

Independent iOS dev. I made @hidenseekapp and @bisectapp.

Joined February 2009
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    1. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter 21 Dec 2015

      @mjtsai @curtclifton @owensd Replacing functionality for yourself is more modular than trying to dynamically change it in the framework.

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    2. Curt Clifton ‏@curtclifton 21 Dec 2015

      @jckarter @mjtsai @owensd that’s part of the reason we have OmniDataObjects and OmniFileStore, but that’s a huge maintenance burden too.

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    3. Michael Tsai ‏@mjtsai 21 Dec 2015

      @curtclifton @jckarter @owensd I don’t see how it advances the platform to have everyone relying on middleware instead of the frameworks.

      0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter 21 Dec 2015

      @mjtsai @curtclifton @owensd Well defined modular components make everyone's life easier. Today's frameworks aren't there, sure.

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    5. JΛЯΣD ‏@jaredsinclair 21 Dec 2015

      @jckarter @mjtsai @curtclifton @owensd Consider UITextView in iOS 7. Unusably broken for *a year* w/out subclass workarounds.

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    6. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter 21 Dec 2015

      @jaredsinclair @mjtsai @curtclifton @owensd Like I said, Swift's defaults won't change how ObjC works or even the policy of new frameworks.

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    7. Michael Tsai ‏@mjtsai 21 Dec 2015

      @jckarter @jaredsinclair @curtclifton @owensd It does change new frameworks unless you’re going to explicitly mark everything as dynamic.

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    8. Roopesh Chander ‏@roopeshchander 21 Dec 2015

      @mjtsai @jckarter @jaredsinclair @curtclifton @owensd I suspect that’ll happen coz the Swift-written framework should be usable from Obj-C.

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    9. Michael Tsai ‏@mjtsai 21 Dec 2015

      @roopeshchander Eventually they’re going to want frameworks that take advantage of Swift features that don’t work with Objective-C.

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    10. Roopesh Chander ‏@roopeshchander 21 Dec 2015

      @mjtsai Agreed. That may be a few decades in the future, but it’s better it’s discussed about now.

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      Roopesh Chander ‏@roopeshchander 21 Dec 2015

      @mjtsai OTOH, a Swift framework to be used only from Swift written decades later would most likely use POP => we can override the protocol

      10:26 PM - 21 Dec 2015
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        1. Michael Tsai ‏@mjtsai 21 Dec 2015

          @roopeshchander Pretty sure that’s less flexible, though I’m not super familiar with how protocols work under the hood.

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        2. Roopesh Chander ‏@roopeshchander 21 Dec 2015

          @mjtsai Protocol methods are always override-able, even if you assign a subtype to a protocl-type. Like in:http://nomothetis.svbtle.com/the-ghost-of-swift-bugs-future …

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        4. Michael Tsai ‏@mjtsai 22 Dec 2015

          @roopeshchander Yes, but only overridable within your code, right?

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        5. Roopesh Chander ‏@roopeshchander 22 Dec 2015

          @mjtsai If the protocol is public, it should be possible to override across modules (I’ve not tested this though).

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        6. Roopesh Chander ‏@roopeshchander 22 Dec 2015

          @mjtsai But, like I said, whenever there’s a final class in the hierarchy, it becomes unoverridable …

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        8. Roopesh Chander ‏@roopeshchander 23 Dec 2015

          @mjtsai Except, when the exposed type is a protocol (not class), it can be overridden even when the implementation is through a final class.

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        9. Roopesh Chander ‏@roopeshchander 23 Dec 2015

          @mjtsai So, yes, it’s possible that in a protocol-oriented Swift framework, we might get a different type of dynamism to achieve this.

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