i'm a waitress. what i do is labor, but it's alienated wage labor under capitalism. it's not the work itself we object to in my situation but my exploitation, the extraction of surplus value from what i produce
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"sex work" is labor, but only because the sexual acts (really, the access to a body) provided in exchange for payment are thus made into a commodity. "sex work" in its wageless, unalienated form is just...sex. it is being "singled out" because it literally isn't "like other jobs"
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Replying to @romiosini
can it not be said that waiting tables in its wageless, unalienated form is just serving food
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Replying to @larvitaro
yeah but "serving food" is still labor. you're just giving me another way of describing something that's still work. sex for the sake of sex isn't work, and arguing otherwise leads down a very dangerous path
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what about psychotherapy? if I don't pay for that it's just having a conversation about my mind is it not?
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Replying to @larvitaro
..... it's already a conversation about your mind lmao you're literally just giving me synonyms. why are you so invested in the commodification of sexual access to female bodies?
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Replying to @romiosini
because I have a number of friends involved in sex work and I know the practical consequences of stigmatizing it and separating it from other forms of labor?
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Replying to @larvitaro
i also have have a lot of sex worker friends and incidentally organize with them and have personal history with the industry. i absolutely agree that stigmatization is dangerous but there is lot of projection in the assumption that what i'm saying here is stigmatizing.
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the point of the thread above is that as marxists we have a specific materialist definition of labor and of alienation. there is no moral component, none of the judgment goes on the workers, but the reality of it is that sexual labor ISN'T like any other labor and insisting
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it is leads down a dangerous analysis where female bodies are means of production but also close to incel mentality where sex is something that can be owed.
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